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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 04:34 PM
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Rachel Maddow - Clinton to the Convention?
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So, how does the Democratic Party get a nominee before the convention? Seems to me there's two things that need to happen. One small, one big.

First, Obama's campaign should stop believing what most of the press says, and start believing what Clinton says -- she isn't budging. If they don't mind the prospect of a divided convention, then fine -- if they do mind that prospect, they'll have to fight for their desired outcome. Clinton is now arguing that taking the fight to the convention is OK for the Democrats -- even noble. This argument won't be defeated if it is ignored -- Obama's camp will have to rebut.

Second, if the Democrats are to avoid a divided convention, the Florida and Michigan dispute will have to be taken off the table -- settled in a way that avoids the risk of a rules dispute that stretches the nominating contest out through the convention. I can think of only one way to do that, but there may be others.

Here's my way: based on my read of NBC's delegate math, I think if the Clinton campaign won 100% of what they wanted on the Florida and Michigan dispute, Obama could still clinch the nomination -- even according to the most pro-Clinton math -- if 90 of the remaining 210-or-so undeclared superdelegates declared for Obama.

If they so declared before May 31st, the Rules and Bylaws committee would have no reason to take up the Florida and Michigan dispute because it would be a moot point -- Obama's camp could concede every Clinton demand on the subject and still win the nomination.

Otherwise? I'll be the twitchy one on radio row at the divided Democratic convention in Denver... spooked by the ghosts of 1968, 1972, 1980...


Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rachel-maddow/clinton-to-the-convention_b_103078.html
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 05:36 PM
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1. Rachel nails it, as usual!
That is, my bet anyway, exactly the Clinton plan. I bet also, that it is hillary's stand that if "I cannot be the 2009 dem pres, then no one will be"..and I believe that it is her goal to be the next dem pres no matter what the cost...she will be the next dem pres, even if the party has to wait until 2012 for that to happen.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:15 PM
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2. She would have NO support by 2012..and maybe not even her senate seat
dems do not embrace losers.. you get one shot at it , and you're done... republicans run the same losers over and over and over,., and sometimes they eventually win...we don't
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-22-08 06:35 PM
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3. The world agrees,
we all agree..we all know this, but apparently Hillary is not interested in accepting it...or caring one way or another for the future of the party, the country or the planet.
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