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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:47 PM Original message |
Poll question: So, Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Awarded", my ass. He won the election and got fucked. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That's what "he won Florida" means |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. Maybe you should choose your words more wisely. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. It's pretty clear |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. ok, Al won.. the election was stolen.. Where was Clinton leading the charge? |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Al Gore didn't want Bill Clinton's support in the |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Because they're supposed to care about the country n/t |
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glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
64. Hello, you know exactly why Clinton wasn't wanted on the campaign trail |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. We Got Robbed! |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
5. He lost because they stopped counting the popular vote in Florida. |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Duh! He also WON THE ELECTION! |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
7. He won Florida AND the popular vote, |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So he shouldn't have been given the Presidency on the popular vote |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. no, that would have been abiding by the ESTABLISHED rules. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Awarding the Presidency on the popular vote? n/t |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Was that the established method? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. No. And it wasn't in the primary either. |
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blonndee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. HA! Not sure why. Seems like a non-issue, and that ALL Dems agree |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
57. That's exactly right |
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Yotun (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. When did you stop beating your wife? The question is a trap if paralleled to the primary... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. You don't change the rules when the game is over |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. He shouldn't have been given the Presidency on the pop vote, he should have been given it because |
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qijackie (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
13. He won in the eyes of the Dems and I recall an enormous number of Dems that were furious because he |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. Al Gore "rolled over"? |
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mohc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
15. I guess it depends on what you mean by "should" |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. florida was stolen -- gore won florida. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. So should have have won on the popular vote? No. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. If the electoral college |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
62. you are bending history to meet your own fantasizes. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
21. He should have been declared the winner because he had won |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. And the Electoral College is the rule |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Here's my answer |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. The Electoral College isn't obligated either |
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PBS Poll-435 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. Primaries Don't Equal General Election!!!!!!!!! |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
29. A legitimate election in 2000 which was stolen & ignored |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
30. He won Florida.. |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. From the reports I heard Bush won by 500 |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Bush is irrelevant to this question |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Myself I think the Electoral vote should be eliminated |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. So if Obama wins the popular vote by |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Those are the rules |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. I don't think Florida was a (clear) theft one side claims |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Under the narrow interpretation of what a vote was, as dictated by James Baker |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. By what narrow interpretation were the valid |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:08 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Yes. The Bush campaign sought to discount any vote that didn't show "clear intent". |
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doc03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I think the dimpled chad and hanging chad argument |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. The hangin chads weren't an example of human error. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
35. If electors were allowed to consider such things |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. The Electoral College isn't obligated |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. depends on the state |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Absolutely |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. but not candidate hacks |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Gore and Bush were candidates |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
44. It wasn't the law..even though we heard |
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aquarius dawning (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
45. That was a general election. Primary elections and general elections are different beasts. |
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democrattotheend (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
47. Theoretically, the popular vote winner should have won |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
48. i would prefer for us to use popular vote nationally |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
52. That is the wrong question. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. No, I'm asking a very specific question |
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FlaGranny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. The question does not make sense. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
53. in the USA there is the elctoral college |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
55. He did win. We were robbed. And the rules should be changed, |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
58. Popular vote, but within the rules: |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. Yes he won both FL and the pop vote, but you're comparing apples to oranges. |
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