Raw Story reports on the behind the scenes dealings between the 2 camps over the VP spot

interesting stuff, although I do consider that their source is a Clinton insider.

http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1119

See: Kennedy-Johnson.

Yes, it will have consequences if he ignores her and her supporters.

Just as it would if the situation were reversed and she ignored Obama and his supporters.

I don't know why so many Obama supporters here have so much trouble understanding that.

shows what a horrible person she is, and how lucky we all are. Imagine such an ammoral person as president, oh wait we don't have to imagine, we have george bush as a perfect example.

it doesn't matter that approximately half the votes cast in the primaries went to her.

It's wise to put your strongest primary opponent on the ticket, especially when the race has been this close. Best way to show that he would like her supporters' votes.

Never have I seen such a sore loser, as the Clintons. I honestly hope she loses her Senate seat, I wouldn't even care if it was to a republican (as long as it didn't swing the majority away from the Dems).

she might have had a chance.

But you do not put someone on the ticket who has already claimed that you are less qualified to be President than your Republican opponent.

Where were the Clintons when the Election of 2000 was stolen from him? You disgrace his honor through your blind support for Hillary Clinton!

:shrug: I think those were just hypotheticals being discussed.

As I see it, Obama will reach out after he has it sewn up (which he basically has now) to Hillary and her camp and Hillary will have to accept. Otherwise she would be committing political suicide (and that's not the clinton's style).

is her NOT being offered the VP slot.

So why is it unacceptable for HRC & Co to reap what they sow? Now you are suggesting that Obama will have to pay the consequences of her own actions. She created this problem.

than you should (in a primary) and if she didn't get close she wouldn't be in position to demand a VP slot.

you know - if people are going to be foolish enough to align their loyalty to Hillary than to their country and themselves - what choice is there but just to let stupid people remain stupid. There will be enough of the more intelligent people that Obama neededn't worry about the Hillary psychos.

I'd like to not believe this story. It conflicts with my prejudices.

That was floated from the Clinton camp.

hmm... what is it???

oh yeah... a toddler sitting in the basket of the grocery cart, looking at the candy, whining for the candy, letting mama know that if she doesn't get candy she will start to scream and pout. If she's really been indulged in the past she may even be thinking about hitting mama or throwing candy around hurting other shoppers.

Now we've all seen these kinds of situations... heaven's, I've been there more times than my pride would even allow me to admit in a public forum:blush: Mama has a choice, she can fearfully give in, buy the candy and avoid embarrassment (although to me, this type of tactic always ends up humiliating the parent more in the long run.) Or the parent can choose to be the adult in control of the situation... calmly repeat to the child that, "no, we are not buying candy today." And when she fusses and whines and escalates mama just smiles blandly, maybe apologizes quietly to other shoppers for the disturbance, maybe removes the child from the situation. But she doesn't give in, because she knows that that is the worst thing she could do to this child, and to all of her other children who are watching the whole scenario play out and are taking notes;)


How have we sunk to this place, I wonder?

more and more accurate.

They say it doesn’t mean that Clinton would not campaign for Obama, that she would, but she would do so like her husband did campaigning for Gore, quite aloof.

This pretty much sounds like what's going to happen.

They show no outrage for the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004. They show no contempt for the Bush administration; in fact, Bill and Pappy Bush are best buddies, golfing together and licking each other's ass.

Then, Hillary turns around and insults Gore and Kerry by insinuating that they "lost" because they are elitist, a subtle reference to and dig at Obama.

All those years spent defending the Clintons and few could understand why the Republicans hated them so much. Now I understand why!

The Clintons are like KKKarl Rove and the Bushes! They are NOT to be trusted!!!

TO HELL WITH DLC SCUM!!!!

a very selfish and self centered couple.

from a loser. Pathetic.


here's Hillary campaigning for John Kerry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

Hill and Bill have been planning for her presidency for years. Their sense of entitlement is amazing. And it's sad that their supporters--particularly the women's groups--can't see through the deceit. As a black woman, I am deeply depressed that this election has created an unhealthy schism between women and blacks. And many black women are standing on the sidelines with our hands up in the air!! This is very, very sad.

reason and logic are lost to them. My hope is that time heals all wounds and they will come to their senses and come to understand the big picture.

As for the Clintons they have shown to be self serving and self centered.