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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:19 AM Original message |
On MSNBC ...It was said that Wes Clark would sure to be on the VP list to give |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. I think Hillary will end up helping Obama pick a running mate. |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. By eliminating one choice? |
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MindMatter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
77. We need that help like we need her help at selecting consultants |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
122. why should she? she is irrelevant. he has much better advisors than that loser. (nt) |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm good with that.... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Unlike the person he supporters, Clark would do what's best for the Country and the party |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:06 AM Response to Reply #12 |
69. What makes you think he would? He's supported Hillary's vision.... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. I saw Clark on TV endorsing Clinton. He never said anything negative on Obama |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. IMO, we are looking for someone who is trustworthy and can support.... |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. I think you're getting Sen Clinton confused with Dr. Evil. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. Nope. Just considering Hillary's actions in the past, and applying them to the future.... |
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musicblind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #90 |
95. haha |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
102. you need to do research. do it. you will be amazed at Clark. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
101. he also called her and told her to quit. wes clark is amazing and |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:24 AM Response to Reply #69 |
117. Wes Clark represents Rovian politics? Huh? |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:35 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. I remember Wes Jr. from 2004--he's a good guy... |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. In all fairness, I haven't heard him in the past month or so, |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
74. But his support of the Clintons is what maks Clark a bad choice for Obama... |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:27 AM Response to Reply #74 |
119. He supported the Clintons out of career/job loyalty, just like Richardson almost did. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #22 |
71. He supported the Clintons in THEIR vision and THEIR pig-slop campaign tactics... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
104. for godsake, links please. clark is a good man. show otherwise. |
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PoliticalAmazon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. Surely you don't need a "link" to see that Clark has been a loyal Clinton supporter.... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
103. unless they site stuff, let it go. anyone can say anything. I love Wes Jr. |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
68. I have search high and low for months |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wes Clark would be my choice. |
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BelleCarolinaPeridot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Mine too. |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. Sounds good to me too! |
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nxylas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. There are so many good choices |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:31 AM Original message |
So true! |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. I like Clark too |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:23 AM Response to Original message |
7. Wes Clark should be a no-brainer with his resume and potential... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
105. he would neutralize any foreign policy beefs they have and he is |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
9. I think Wes Clark would be a fantastic choice for Veep |
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Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
10. He has always been my first choice. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #10 |
106. my freeper brothers LOVE him. |
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DianaForRussFeingold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
115. K&R If he has to pick someone who supports Clinton |
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Tinksrival (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
11. YES! |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
112. I've always loved that pic |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
14. It kills a couple of birds with a single stone, too |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
15. I hope not. Since that "cameo shot" during the NBC debates and this latest MSNBC |
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KAZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Zinni would be good too! Rendell? No way in hell. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Oh my gawd ... Rendell ... what a nutcase that guy is. |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Wes Clark is fine in my book |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Zinni endorsed Bush in 2000. No thanks. nt |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
81. Clark was against the war too and warned bush* what he was getting into. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
16. I always thought Obama and Clark meshed better on foreign policy then Clark and Clinton. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
17. Sounds excellent to me! |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
18. NO - If it is a former General, it needs to be Tony Zinni |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Zinni endorsing Bush in 2000 pretty much kills that idea. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Please provide |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I think it was Zinni who endorsed Bush in 2000. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Nah, that was Tommy Franks. I think you got yer Generals mixed up? ;) |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Here you go. WP article about Zinni in 2003. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. My mistake - I thought you meant Clark |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:38 AM Response to Reply #39 |
78. I thought |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. He didn't make a big deal about it, like Wes Clark panders at every opportunity. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
108. links on wes pandering. don't just say it. post links. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. This article is an interesting read. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. And HRC has praised Bush from time to time too. Since we're picking and choosing. |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Voting is different, isn't it? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Zinni is "the polar opposite" of Rumsfeld. He is one of the most highly respected retired general |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Zinni is a good man. n/t |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Clark never endorsed Bush; that is not true |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. I meant Zinni, not Clark. I added Zinni's name to the post to make it clear. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #37 |
40. I see, I see |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Because Clark has had his head figuratively so FAR up the Clinton's ASS that he can't see straight. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. ShortnFiery, I know perfectly well how you feel about Clark |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I'm just getting tired of all all the hoopla. When Wes Clark was on MSNBC last week |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. We're on the same side in this presidential race |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Why should I care about your "Ignore List"? Block me if you wish. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. It's probably best |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Well thanks. I don't lie - I give my resource links and OPINIONS. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #64 |
82. Give em hell Wes! |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #82 |
110. Yay, Auntie Bush! I agree. GO, WES! |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. I have to back up ShortnFiery here |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
83. Sorry, you have a lot of homework to do. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. OK, then please tell me what you think happend |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. Sorry, I'm in the middle of a project and don't have time |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
96. If you can post, you can give a cliff note version with links. The FACTS still stand |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Then don't change it. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. What wild false charge did I make? |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. BTW, this was the only thing I could find that comes close to what you stated about Shelton |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #100 |
116. OK , I'm home now but I honestly have have no experience doing research. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:55 PM Response to Reply #60 |
111. Links. no 'probably' crap. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
109. what a crock. post links. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Roguevalley, see posts #63 and #113 for links about why I'd say Clark was relieved vs retired |
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LiberalAndProud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. He "retired" because he was critical of Bush. |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. That is WRONG |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Clark completed his entire term |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. That is WRONG |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
99. You said: "Wes Clark was relieved by SecDef Cohen in July of 1999 under President Clinton." |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #99 |
113. Wes, here is why they wouldn't call it a relief |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Thanks for the team work wmbrew0206! |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #51 |
55. NP. I don't get the obsession with Clark most poster here have. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. When I was active duty and assigned to "Protocol" for a 3 month stint, I learned a great |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. I heard from some people who were on Clark's staff |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 12:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. I heard from Eric Massa that he was the best guy possible to work for |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #79 |
88. Like I said, those were rumors |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
19. K&R |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
21. I think he would be an awesome pick! |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
23. Clark is on my list |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. He works hard for Democrats, Clark does |
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Joe the Revelator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
25. I'm all for Clark. That would be a real vote for change. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. What do you REALLY know about Clark? In military circles, he's not widely respected. |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. The only |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:16 AM Response to Reply #66 |
73. That is so completely untrue |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Two words |
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wmbrew0206 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Are you suggesting Colin Powell |
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tokenlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
27. Let's not forget that a lot of the Clark activists from 2004 went with Obama... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
28. Clark has always been my #1 choice for VP this election for either of them. nt |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
35. Anyone who doesn't think Wes Clark is on the VP to-be-vetted list is crazy. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. I'm already ready. |
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Doityourself (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
41. Not my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
45. He Would Be A Fine Choice But I Just Don't See It |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
49. I like Wesley Clark.. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. I like him too ... but I like him *much better* NOT within Obama's Executive Branch. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. you've got a point... |
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thoughtcrime1984 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. That would be my only concern with Clark as VP, and it IS a big concern |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
121. I thought Hillary wanted war with Iran. Clark started the very first ANTI-WAR with Iran website. |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
92. You need to get a larger size tin hat. |
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newmajority (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
80. Clark has been on my short list for some time |
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SaveOurSovereignty (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:27 AM Response to Original message |
118. Its a good way to counter |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
120. I like Wes Clark. My dream ticket would be Obama/Feingold, I still think Richardson |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 06:16 AM Response to Original message |
123. I don't want him as VP. He was on MSNBC the other morning and it |
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moondust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 06:43 AM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Yeah, it's too bad. |
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