Majority of Dems want Clinton to be V.P.

like her, hate her or otherwise, the only way to unite our party and scare the hell out of the Republicans is to have them both on the same ticket.
Remembering that compromise is often a huge part of politics, like many Democrats, I believe that's the only way we will actually win in November.


(CNN) – Even as the prolonged Democratic presidential race has become more divisive in its final stretch, a majority of Democrats want Barack Obama to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate, according to a new poll out Tuesday.

A new Gallup poll shows 55 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents surveyed think Obama should offer the New York senator a spot on his ticket. That number is significantly influenced by Clinton's supporters — close to 75 percent of her backers want the No. 2 spot to be offered, while only 43 percent of Obama supporters feel the same.

The poll comes as some of Clinton's highest profile backers increasingly suggest Obama and Clinton should team up for the general election. Speaking in New York Friday, Sen. Chuck Schumer said he at first didn't think such a team was possible but now believes "it could be."

"Hillary and Barack have both run very strong and great races, and I think they'd be a strong ticket together," he said.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/13/majority-of-dems-want-clinton-to-be-vp/

they are older, wiser and very smart about how we've managed to lose elections before and how why we do NOT want to lose this one.
Pragmatically speaking, I perceive it as do many others, as the one and only way to be all inclusive, unite the Democratic party and WIN IN NOVEMBER!!!

Obama supporters need to realize that they cannot dismiss 17 million voters who adamantly supported HRC. That would be insane. If you believe that he can win without her, I've got a broken bridge in Minnesota I'll sell you real cheap!

I thought she prided herself on getting the uneducated white (wink wink) vote?
How "smart" is it to talk about staying in the race because Obama might be assassinated?

which is what Obama supporters do best. She never said that but brought up an historical fact that has nothing to do with Obama but had alot to do with LBJ and the history of the Democratic party back then.
To even begin to think that she'd bring this up for those reasons is absurd and frankly, very disturbing.
One can take anybody's quotes out of context and make what they want from them.

If we don't change course, we don't change. Whether it is McCain, Clinton, or Obama, we need a fundamental shift from what we have been doing in DC.

"This survey was conducted at the New York City office of the Clinton campaign. The sample size was the 5 guys working the phones, and the Obama supporters were actually non-existent and added to the poll data in order to not make the poll appear unbalanced."

:rofl:

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A similar poll here would have dramatically different results.

She's been voted off the island. Please know that she can't swim back to shore and try to re-join!

WE DO NOT WANT HER NEAR THE PRESIDENCY! Got it?

to be president. Cause they sure did get her pretty darn close to being president. With an unprecedented count of nearly half of all the votes cast. It is disingenuous to say that America sent a clear message to Hillary when it did not. It sent a very divided message at best, and you know this. You can spin however you like. Yes she did lose, and will not be president, but do not spin it as though she lost in a landslide. She came so close that this primary will go down in HISTORY because of it. And you need to come to terms that America does not dislike her the way that Democratic Underground does. There is a stark difference. No one is a horrible person in this race, neither her nor Obama. They are both great candidates. That is why the real world has been so divided. We were faced with two excellent choices.

Check out what she said:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3322367

She lost. Just because she hasn't conceded doesn't make that less true. She will not be rewarded - threats be damned - for the shitty campaign she has run. She has acted out the antithesis to Obama's message and deserves her self-inflicted pariah status in the party.

during the convention. Guess we wait and see. The really disturbing thing is that over 17 million people voted for her. Obama supporters here at least, have gone way out of their way to disengage most of them by calling them names, using sexist slurs of all sorts, and generally being impolite as hell to most HRC supporters.

I voted for Obama in the primaries but I want to see us win and don't see a way to do that without including HRC as vp.

Even the GOP know she is toxic.

An Obama/Dysentery ticket - which is what it would be with her on the ticket - in spite of her very best efforts to put a gun to the head of the party is not going to happen. She sealed the demise of that prospect today with her vile mention of assassination.

And, so is she.

truly made the RFK allusion, as is being reported. Nobody wants a VP who's that baldly hoping to step up to the big chair prematurely.

Which has been clear for a very long time, and reaffirmed today. No-one of sane mind wants this unbalanced, slimey creature one step away from the White House.

along with over 40% of all of Obama's supporters?

What do you still see in this woman? She's very dangerous and not quite sane. I think it's best to move on to a better choice.

Me? I'm embarrassed by her!

She said a stupid thing. Yes her comments on Robert Kennedy were HORRIBLY stupid. But no, most people do NOT think she wants Obama assassinated. As they all pretty much agreed on Anderson Cooper tonight... it would have done her NO benefit and she KNOWS this. She merely put her foot in her mouth yet again with another statement, but in the context of the interview (and Anderson Cooper stated this several times directly) most Americans will be able to see that she was taken out of context. Is this a sign that she'd make a great president? She does have a tendency to say things that sound bad. I know a lot of people like that. I do not know, however, if this tendency means she herself is a horrible person. It may raise questions about how closely her political speech writers need to follow ahead of her if anything.


I did vote for Hillary, but have remained and do remain very unbiased. I complained about her Bosnia comment for example because she did lie about Bosnia. That was not good and I was very uncool with that. But neither candidate is perfect, nor are most candidates. Obama also lied about Reverend Wright in his statements that he had never heard Rev Wright say such controversial statements. You would have be to daft not to think that. The question, of course, is whether it should MATTER that he heard those statements or not. This is true. And it may not matter if he heard them. But it doesn't change that most people feel he was, at the least, misleading about his knowledge of Wright's positions. So it is rather hypocritical to freak out about the Bosnia incident and not the Wright incident. I have been consistent and called them BOTH out on it. I have remained fairly honest about both candidates.

I have done things such as applaud John Edwards AFTER he came out in support of Obama. I have also been kind to those who have endorsed Hillary.

I have made it my goal to be fair to the candidates in this race. I am sorry that you do not see fit to do so. I do so because I think they are both good candidates, I acknowledge that at this point it appears Obama is the winner. I will vote for, donate to, and support him. I would hope that you would have the same spirit had the tables been reversed. I also would hope that you'd be able to look at things that were clearly misstatements and be honest to yourself about them. If you think that Hillary wants Obama to be assassinated I feel like that says a lot more about YOU than it does about her. If you think Hillary needs to do a much better job of WORDING things then yes she should, because what she said was offensive even if she did not mean it that way.

What a big surprise.

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It came out before she assassin-baited.

put that issue to rest right now after her assassination comment. God, she's a hideous human being.

I think the Dems will unite regardless of who the VP is. But what's at least equally important is how the Republicans and Independents feel. I'd like to see a poll asking them if they're be more or less likely to vote for Obama if Clinton were on the ticket.

Her strategy of spoiling 2008 in order to pave her way for 2012 will kill her chances at 2012. The bitterness over what she has done will grow over the next few years, regardless of the outcome of this election.

:hippie:

good riddance!

Her references to assassination should make all of us uncomfortable.

Plus, it is not just Democrats that we need to get to vote Democratic in November but also Independents and Republicans and most of them would vote for Satan first (oops, I guess they already did in Bush--thus proving my point).

What matters is what will win in the general. The only reason for putting Hillary on board would be if her voting block holds their breath and says their not voting for anyone but her. Hillary herself could do the most to keep that from coming true, and she's also the one most likely to make it happen if that's what she chooses.

But Hillary would do nothing for people leaning towards McCain, except maybe lean further. Jim Webb, or another Southerner could actually break that lean back towards Obama, who will be the Dem nominee.

however, my liking him doesn't make an Obama/Webb ticket electable. That is a trick Democrats need to learn. Liking somebody doesn't translate into votes.

Funny thing is, I just had a conversation with another Obama supporter who voiced the same concerns I have about a Democratic win without HRC. She said that if we lose, they are planning to move out of the country if McCain wins.
I think I'd be tempted to do the same thing.

Well it's all a moot point now because the paranoid conspiracy theorists have already jumped all over Hillary for her very innocent comments about the RFK assasination. She defended the comment by saying that her mind had been very much on the Kennedys lately because of the latest tragedy of Ted's brain tumor, et al.
More cannon fodder to bury her.

Let's see, France is looking good right about now and yes, they do have great universal health care as long as they can dump Sarkozy.