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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:22 PM
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I don't believe Hillary meant to insinuate anything. She's not
stupid enough to make that kind of GAFFE on purpose. She would have to know that if she made a comment like that on purpose, she would be toast.

Well, she fucked it up with that remark, and the gaffe will end it, anyway.

Advice to Obama: Don't say a word. Remember, she didn't defend you when asked about your faith. If you don't take that advice, then chalk it up to "the heat of the campaign" and you say things that don't always come out correctly. Stay on the high road.
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woolldog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:22 PM
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1. Bullshit.
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:24 PM
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28. Bullshit is right... she says she's staying in "just in case"
which means that's what she's counting on apparently...
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:22 PM
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2. Not the first time, there's nothing left to conclude other than she'll sink to any low.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:24 PM
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3. Then she should have offered a MUCH better apology, rather than "*IF* it was offensive." n/t
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:24 PM
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4. Then it's a gaffe that keeps repeating,,,
her team has been insinuating the same for months.
She may not be that stupid but she certainly is that conniving
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:19 PM
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23. She is mentally ill
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:24 PM
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5. I agree, it's a gaffe and she will have her ass handed to her for it
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:02 PM
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13. She had to know that such an asanined statement would end
it for her to have done it on purpose. Anyone, she has committed political suicide. I hope we don't turn her into a martyr and thus help revive herself by playing the victim card again.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM
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6. Every word she speaks is done purposefully and carefully planned
You really think she was surprised by a question about why she was still in a race she cannot win and hadn't given her answer to that question some thought in advance?
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM
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7. she was at a table infront of a group of newspaper editors
one would think a candidate would be careful with their words in that particular setting
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM
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Why not mention other late primary seasons? Why must she mention the assassination?
Why not say, "We've had other primary seasons that went to June; '92, '84, '68, etc.".

Why always "Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June of 1968"??
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:25 PM
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8. Well I do. I don't buy her apology for one second
Now she's getting pity points from the MSM because she looked "hurt" during her apology. :eyes:
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:26 PM
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Well as long as she gets one idiot. Thankfully the AP isn't as stupid....
It's being liveblogged here:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/05/breaking-hillary-reportedly-invoked.html
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:04 PM
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15. Look, I'm for Obama.
You can't really believe that she's that stupid, can you?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:21 PM
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24. Am I going to believe you or my lying eyes, you mean? Take a guess.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:33 PM
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31. I don't give a tinker's damn who you believe.
I do give a damn about Obama winning the General Election. The reaction, IMO, while justified, is not helpful.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:24 PM
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27. Stupid, no.
Arrogant to the point of short-sightedness, absolutely.

This idea is not new. It has been floated about by Hillary and her surrogates for several weeks. There have been numerous references to something "catastrophic" happening to Obama, but they have explained it away as a reference to a Wright-like scandal. But Hillary's mistake was to use the word "assassination". With that one word, her dog whistle suddenly became audible to everyone.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:32 PM
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30. Again. I don't deny it was a Freudian slip...
I'm just trying to think long-term about how our reaction will affect the voters we need to win the General Election.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:26 PM
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9. 100,000 dead Iraqi children say you're mistaken
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:28 PM
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10. she's said it private so many times, she no longer saw it as inflammatory
she was telling the truth about why she was staying in the race.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:28 PM
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11. OK. Then she's too dumb to be viable. Like dumb as Huckabee.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:04 PM
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16. Don't disagree with that. nt
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 04:32 PM
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12. It shows how cold and calculating she is.
Oh, and thoughtless...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:03 PM
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14. She was just fantasizing and forgot to tell her mouth not to say that part
After all, it's just fantasy.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:05 PM
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18. May have been a Freudian slip...
I'll grant you that.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:21 PM
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25. And there are those that want someone worse than Bush!
That is what she is, even Bush would not say such a thing.
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:04 PM
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17. it's the third time she brought up the assassination of RFK...she knows what she's doing.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:07 PM
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19. bush has relied on his ignorant base for years now
and they come through for him.

she has her own following of the same calibre. she can say all the stupidest shit, like georgie, and still be adored.

and i do think on purpose, one of those dogwhistle things - code talk.

yes, she is that low.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:08 PM
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20. Excellent advise. He needs to unify the party and act presidential
I have little doubt he'll do otherwise. But holding out a hand to Clinton right now will clearly show him to be the right leader at the right time.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:13 PM
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21. As far as I know, I agree with you...nt
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:18 PM
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22. She's strung-out and losing it. In other situations, I'd agree. I would. However...
...this is the second time (third according to some) where she's used this example and the first where she's intentionally brought up the assassination aspect of it.

  She's tired, she knows she's losing and she probably has already been told "No" very politely but firmly by Mr. Obama for the VP seat.

  I would agree with you, normally. But if you figure in these conditions, and the stresses she's under it's a more than arguable point.

PB
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:23 PM
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26. If she can't stand the stress she needs to get out
of the RACE and out of the Senate.

She is a scar on the face of America.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:25 PM
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29. What if she answers the phone at 3 am with a statement like that?
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