I'm over the top on this one, so don't read this...

"That's the stupidest goddamned thing I've ever heard..." Colonel Cathcart in Catch-22

...the latest nonsense is stupid and pathological.

To hate Hillary so much that she can't say anything about anyone because it is a veiled message against Obama, calculated and presented with precision. She says, her husband was in until June when he clinched the nomination. "Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June" (meaning in context that he was still campaigning then). She is so transparent!

She could have said RFK was on his way to the nomination in June of 68, but she said he was assassinated! She's calling for the assassination of Barack Obama! Have her arrested for incitement, conspiracy. Get homeland security to follow up every lead to prevent the impending assassination. Obviously she sent a coded message to the Arkansas hitmen who were only waiting for her call. They are on their way to get him even now. Call the undertaker.

Oh, wait. Or, could it be that she meant to compare herself with her husband? He ended up with the nomination and the Presidency. With Robert Kennedy? He had a good chance to get the nomination. That she was looking for historical comparisons, as she said in the interview? That she is going to campaign at least into June as have others?

Some of you folks are getting hysterical. This is the stupidest goddamned thing I've ever heard.

Oh sorry, I said "folks," obviously a reference to the street gang, who happen to be black, thereby indicating an association between Obama and gang activity. I am such a racist I think I will go kill myself now.

think mcfly

look here: http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/

But then, if you haven't been paying attention, don't worry. You haven't missed much.

((laughs))

:thumbsup:

I have seen politicians destroyed by a poorly worded comment and I don't like to do that to anyone. But I looked at the quote again and she specifically used the word assassinate...she did not say "Robert Kennedy did not wrap up the nomination until June". At the very least, it was highly insensitive. I've gone canvassing in black neighborhoods and met older black women who say they pray for his safety...I've met people who are afraid to vote for him because they are afraid he'll get assassinated. I am not going to accuse her of having a malicious motive, but at the very least, her comments were highly insensitive.

So you're saying it's like her "misspeaking" about Bosnia sniper fire--FOUR TIMES?

If you read about her experiences at that time she made a major shift away from conservatism and toward liberalism. The assassinations during that spring and summer coming after the JFK assassination only a few years before was a searing event. He was, imo, the JohnEdwards/Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton all rolled into one. Liberal, hope and power. I am not suprised that she brings it up from time to time. I don't think it has anything whatsoever to do with Barack Obama.

pandered to assassins and used the possible assasination of her opponent to justify her staying in the race.

but do you really think Hillary is calling for and hoping for Obama's assassination? Really?

but do you really think Hillary is calling for and hoping for Obama's assassination? Really?

Example: Those who lived through WW2 - at least in Europe, many of them - always refer to it as a point of reference for everything.

I think we all feel vunerable to this possibility for our candidate. Some candidates more than others. I have always felt that the JFK assassination was a coup of sorts and that the legitimate results of our elections are what keep our nation together through everything. The worst that could happen is for out leaders to lack legitimacy. Then it would be open season like it is in so many other countries where elections are rigged and political violence is the norm.

it was a calculated remark. But the fact it was a slip makes it all the more damning, because it shows how her mind works. And even if you give it the most benign interpretation, do you really want someone so politically tone-deaf, so insensitive, so prone to foot-in-mouth disease as your candidate?

As has been pointed out in numerous posts on DU, she's been saying shit like this for nearly two months, eluding to
"something" might happen to Obama. Where have you been?

are u a cooley high fan too?

and i NEVER miss gangland on the history channel

^totally random, but yeah

we're >here< tho

~edited for clarity~

These displays of outrage, are not genuine offense over the death of an admirable man. It is their excuse to finally get rid of HIllary.

killed by her own fucking hand. She deserves everything that is going to happen to her. She is despicable. She knows the kind of KKK fans she has out there. Bringing up assissination as a reason to stay in the race is beyond despicable. She is going down in flames!!!

Darn, there I go again, I said race.

She said Bobby Kennedy was campaigning in June.

when she was "only" pandering to bigots.

She said he was assassinated in June. I heard her myself. Many times now.

all of you are liars and you are looking for an excuse to get rid of the NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE US!!

I agree completely. The Obama people are off the deep end and they have been for quite a while. You can't talk to them or reason with them in any way...I know, I've tried. It is a classic example of people letting their passion over-ride their reason.

disclaimer: I AM NOT REFERRING TO ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS.

-P

Because it is.

one of her reasons to stay in the race is both self-destructive and stupid beyond belief. Using her husband's failure to secure the nom before June is not a stupid example. The first one I cited is grossly stupid and cold-blooded.

she is ignoring history while invoking it.

She is all about spin, just like Bill.

There is zero defense for this.

she didn't mean what you think she meant.

She was saying Kennedy was still in the race as of June '68. I suppose she could've said "until RFK had his 'troubles'". Or "until he was sent upstate to live on a farm". Or "until he got a boo-boo and retired from politics." Instead, she just said what happened.

To think this was in any way a call, a wish, a desire for Obama to be assassinated is just nuts. She's as much at risk of assassination as he is.

The NY Post turned this into a stupid uproar. Gee, ya think maybe they like dividing Democrats?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :yourock:

If so, good for you.

As with everything else in her campaign, Clinton has again unleashed the gates of hell upon herself. She seized on Obama's comments and disingenuously gave her campaign a second wind. All well and good. Well, if those comments were so offensive and repugnant to her, she should not be surprised (nor should her supporters) to find that every word out of her own mouth is now under a microscope. To borrow one of her scolding phrases, "...can't stand the heat? -- get out of the kitchen."

These two situations show us if Hillary supporters are Democrats or are just part of Hillary's cult.

:rofl:

Do you support the gas tax holiday? I understand if you want to plead the 5th. :rofl:

her true self came out.

If Obama said something like this would you take it to mean that he was hoping that Hillary would be assassinated?

Did Obama give Hillary the finger?
Did he refer to her period?
Did he brush the Hillary dirt off his shoulder?

This kind of interpretation is exactly what it means when one says that there is no there, there.

The biggest fear of Obama supporters is something will happen to him like what happened to Bobby. Do you how many times I have had to reasure people when I knocked on doors he was safe. For her to say this is unforgivable.

The week that his brother got diagnosed too. The woman has either no brain or no heart.

and you have every right to be.

She was fearmongering, with the black community being her particular target.

Despite the fact I have been here at DU for over seven years I rarely post,
most of my posts have been in the lounge. I really don't have a candidate
favorite in this race for one main reason, 2004, when Kerry conceded I was sick and sleepless for weeks,
I could not in a million years accept Bush was again anointed.

Since then I vowed never again to put all my faith in any Democratic candidate. My first
choice in a perfect world would be Obama, but I really have no major problem with
Clinton. I really think that they are both political animals, by that I mean excellent
politicians.

I really hope that Obama becomes the next president, but if not I feel a large portion
of his supporters will either become suicidal or homicidal, it is beginning to scare me.
There is no advantage to the Democratic party at all for Obama supporters to hate with all
their might Clinton and the same for Clinton people against Obama. I would like to see both
on the ticket if for no other reason to save the heartache.

All that said, Hillary Clinton is too smart to alienate any voters by intentionally bringing up 1968
to gain any advantage at this point. She could have made her point about staying in the race better
but there is no way in my opinion that she had any evil thoughts or was even thinking about Obama
when she said what she said. And for the record in 1968 I was 13 years old, my dad who worked for
Mayor Bradley at the time was at the Ambassador when it happened, I shook RFK's hand that very
week, the only other times in my life I felt so robbed at his death were when John Lennon was killed
and maybe 9/11/01, so I am as sensitive as anyone about even bringing the subject up, especially
this close to the anniversary.

it is an honor to read it. Thank you

In college I read every book on Robert Kennedy that I could find. Those who knew him seemed to be able to reconcile the contradictions, the politician and the person, the "ruthless" and the compassionate, I read about Tom Hayden and Mayor Dailey sitting in the same pew during the funeral service, about his honesty with college audiences about the war, his involvement and their responsibility to help end it.

Interesting that RFK was part of the Kennedy administration who got us more involved in Vietnam. That he turned over time against the war. That he was a hard nosed politician, yet appealed to both those in Appalacia and Watts.

The New Deal, The New Frontier, The Great Society, Jimmy, Bill, Hillory and Barack. We are so much more together even if there are contradictions.

Senators Obama and Clinton tap into something that was stolen from us in 1963, 1968 and 2000. We felt some of it with President Carter and President Clinton. We are hungry for it, hence the passion around here. You really touched something in me with your post. Thanks.

We are not the enemy. Peace.

Came across this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4vJxi9Kis

but when passion becomes toxic you end up with another Nixon, except Nixon these
days would be an upgrade from Bush or McSame. 1968 was an ugly year from the convention
through the general election, I'd rather not live through it again.

This should have been the title of your post.

Proof? "Oh sorry, I said "folks," obviously a reference to the street gang, who happen to be black, thereby indicating an association between Obama and gang activity. I am such a racist I think I will go kill myself now."

Did someone teach a gerbil how to type?

Non-gerbil english...

This whole tea-leaf reading business is bogus. Hillary and her supporters wish no harm for Obama. To think otherwise is to indulge in hostile fantasy. We went through it before and would go through it again if anything happened to him. We are every bit as concerned. I hope you can say the same.

If you don't know what I mean, look here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG4vJxi9Kis

as we all are. (According to some theories at least.)

when you don't know someone but perhaps a diagonal stripe in his case. In my own it's more of a checkerboard. You?

Just my appendages.

Thanks for commenting on my posts. I have really been enjoying your sense of humor. It makes this fun. I wish others of our political persuasion were more numerous so we could call these folks on their absurdity and laugh together about it. They are a glum bunch sometimes.

believes no matter how nice you say it, or how many facts you use to back it up. All she will do is call you names and stomp her feet like a little child. For a forty something, she acts very inmature.

:eyes:

but you've gotta admit, it was a pretty impolitic (at best) thing to say, and you'd think we'd want to nominate someone a bit better at politics....

What’s particularly saddening is the way many Obama supporters seem happy with the application of “Clinton rules” — the term a number of observers use for the way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by the Clintons, no matter how innocuous, as proof of evil intent.

--Paul Krugman, 2-11-2008

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html

It's hard to understand the reasoning behind making such a comparison, especially at this stage in the game.

she will still be campaigning in June. Bill won. RFK probably would have come from behind and won.