Will you forgive Clinton? I do.

I saw her dejected look after her apology. She and everyone knows that this kind of reference can't help her in any primary. I really don't think she planned it. She was just tired and probably blurted out the only possible thing that would allow her the nomination. She paused for an abnormally long time after she said it, and we can see she knew it at that moment.

I think she avoided referencing Obama in her apology because she didn't even want to bring it up. She didn't want to bring it up again. She's obviously taking the probability of losing poorly, and this was the result.

I'm now more worried for her than any possibility that Obama will lose. Hillary: please drop out and endorse Obama. Then take a long vacation, rest, and put things into perspective. I don't really enjoy seeing her crack any further than this. :(

Why is it so many feel the need to put 'lib' somewhere in their screen names? Trying to convince someone about something?

So there is something to forgive. At the very least, you know she would never say anything like this under normal circumstances. She is under such extreme pressure that she's saying things she knows are wrong. You could tell it the moment after she uttered the words, and the pictures from after the apology support this.


I've been under extreme pressure, and it took all my willpower sometimes to act normally. And hers is probably greater than anything I've experienced. Most would crack, and she is. I feel sorry for her and I wish her the best.

want a president who is known to crack under pressure. I'm sending a check to Hillary's campaign tonight.

I think she needs a vacation. I don't see a reason for continued bloodletting in a race that is essentially over.

What she said was unthinkably horrible, and I think it's time for this to end. She needs a break and so does the party.

What pressure do you think she will be under as Pres?
She can not be trusted with the reigns of this nation with her propensity to lash out with statements that are destructive. We have had quite enough of that, thank you.

A President of the USA is under that CONSTANTLY!

She can't use "extreme pressure" as an excuse.

You can't use it for her either.

This horseshit meme that she "apologized" is already getting tiresome.

She did not apologize to Obama like she should have. Please don't misread my comments. I was just trying to point out to the other poster she did something wrong, and even she has acknowledged that, even if not the specific wrong we all see.

I guess I feel better now that the race is over. :hug:

Time after time she says these outrageous things: she and McCain would be better to lead the country than Obama, she would "obliterate" Iran, she provides arguments for the myriad variations of how votes should be counted which includes everything except how the party actually counts delegates, she appeals to the "hard-working white voters", and now she makes references to assassinations in the month of June.

Still, she is a candidate. Still, people vote for her. The longer she gets away with it the worse it tears apart the party. I'm at the point where I've had it with Dean, the superdelegates who haven't announced, and anyone else who could bring this to a close.

Can you imagine if Barack had said all those things? He'd probably be sitting in Guantanamo Bay by now. NOONE else could get away with this bullshit, and the only reason she is getting away with it is that she is a former first lady. It is disgusting, and no I do not "forgive her".

for their blatant manipulations of the truth?

i'm not going to bash her, i'm just totally done with her.

n/t

Get the fuck out with the "she's dejected" shit.

Believe me I was really disturbed after she made these comments. She's clearly not herself at this point.

I don't think she can face up to what she said. She so inartfully avoided the topic at the apology, I think she imagined she was avoiding further damage by not mentioning the unthinkable.

offer her our condolences and no worries she's trying to screw our Country..that's all in the past. What hilary needs is a nice long vacation from her lying..maybe we could all chip in and send her to Barbados or somewhere tropical where she can sit in the Sun and sip Pina Colodas while we try to undo the SHIT she and bil have Wrought(ROT).

I have pity for her and I hope someone loves her enough to get her somehelp.

But forgive?

Nope.

I honestly and truly believe she needs help. I'm not being snarky. I thought so when the sniper thing happened. That didn't seem like an ordinary political untruth. It seemed really kind of crazy to say a thing like that. This is another thing like that in a way. I really think that if Bill cares about her, he'll try to get her help.

She has nothing else in her life but her career. Chelsea is grown & gone. Bill has never really been there for her. She has put her all into her political ambitions. She needs help.

she won't do that of course since it means that she was talking about Barack getting whacked...

she avoided affirming that she pondered such terrible thoughts.

She's doing things politically disadvantageous at this point. It isn't like the race thing, she really is cracking.

bad, when they did it.

I'm sorry, the past 4 weeks she has gone lower and lower and she finally hit rock bottom. She deserves what she is getting.

wasnt because she truly felt bad for the Kennedy's, or OBama, or AA's...

that look was crap I may have just sunk my own campaign.

Sorry, I've long since decided Hillary is not someone I can respect again.

:evilfrown:

According to a report on Countdown, a lot of her backers are shaking their heads.

The more experienced candidate who continues to say the stupidest things.

"Hardball" pundits are a close second.

Foxnews is really the only one we can trust right? I guess that george bush feller wasnt all that bad after all.

IF Barack Obama is elected and serves 8 years without a single attempt to do him harm, I'll consider it.

And do whats right for her and the party --- exit the race.

She does that in short order, I think many folks (myself included) will either forgive, forget, but more then anything - move on to fight McCain.

If she chooses to drag this morass all the way to the convention, there will be very hard feelings that won't go away.

First so far posted was by Time Magazine she brought this up in early March!

I'll forgive her if she drops out, campaigns as hard for Obama as she and Bill did in the last few weeks, tells her supporters to vote for Obama, and when Obama retires from office of the president safe and sound Jan 20th, 2017!

Or is it the rules agreement she read?

anti-war to the point where it is my #1 and only issue.


That said, I can see a person who is mentally imbalanced.

I know many New Yorkers regret their choice after witnessing the filthy "kitchen sink" campaign.

Unfortunately I cannot forgive Hillary, and I don't!

Even Hillary supporters use JUDAS..on Easter weekend, describing a very dedicated American, Richardson, for not endorsing Hillary.

So JUDAS and Hillary, not in the same league. I FORGIVE Judas!

I really don't think she was being intentionally malicious. She apologized, let's move on.

after watching an hour or so of the news (Hardball and Keith)

It was a horrid, stupid, comment. But I think she is showing signs of fighting a losing battle.

For whatever reason, she has decided to fight on and she has to know she can't win. We've all had periods of our life when we were defeated. Luckily for most of us, we didn't have to go through it in public. And, it was my luck, to have people around me who helped me stay sane.

Here's the bitch about being the candidate. She is surrounded all day by people who need her to keep going. If you go to work for a campaign and get to the upper levels, you have your eye on some great job in the government when it is over. If you candidate drops out, there goes your job hopes.

And, I think for most couples, hopefully your spouse isn't so invested in your "winning" and can give you objective support and advice. Here, I think, Bill wants back into the White House. Understandably so. He is probably thinking about what he'd do differently and about writing his own history from the inside. If Hillary doesn't win, Obama (or god forbid McCain) gets to write the history.

So, all the people in her life have an alternative motive for wanting hr to stay in/win. It may be that there is no one around her who would support her in a decision to get out.

So she goes on.

And she's tired of it and wants out herself. Maybe.

Sad deal.

I'm surprised she didn't yell out her web site address right after her "apology". If anyone was offended crap...

She's a pathetic excuse of a human being.

She needs to get behind the Democratic nominee and stop aiding McCain. While her having a breakdown may be tragic, it's nothing compared with what will happen to the country if McCain is elected.

about this comment or any other. I'm done with her. I no longer live in NY -- if I did, I'd hope to hell there was a viable Dem candidate to oppose her for her seat because I'd vote against her in a heartbeat.

I'm just done. I no longer have enough respect for her to care about forgiveness.

I certainly think it was a mistake, and not something deliberate. I don't think she wishes for Obama to be assassinated. I think she is hoping for some sort of a scandal to derail him, but I don't think she would wish any harm to him.

I did feel a little bad for her when I saw how dejected she looked. I would hate to see this be how she goes down. I really don't think she meant any harm, and I think she probably did not realize when she was speaking how much people fear something happening to Obama, especially in the black community. I would think she probably realized it after she said it, but I don't think she meant any harm by it.

I am really torn, because I want to give her the benefit of the doubt, and I know what it's like to say something stupid and not realize it until afterwards. But when I look at the text of the comment it's really hard to interpret charitably.

Nor can I forgive those who are enabling her and are still trying to claim she did nothing wrong.