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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:04 PM
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I forgive you, Hillary....
It was an insensitive, unwise and poor example to use as an excuse for staying in the race.

In politics words matter. For a seasoned politician, you have chosen your words poorly.

There is no confusion in how the average voter perceives your statement -

..........You're staying in the race in case Obama gets killed.

Maybe that's not what you intended, but that is how it came out. No amount of backtracking can erase that.

Drop out. Concede. Go back to the Senate and take over as Majority Leader from that soft-spoken sissy from Nevada..

You will help us in a much greater way in that role.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:07 PM
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1. I don't think she has the support any more for Majority Leader.
she may be lucky to keep her Senate seat. She has alienated a lot of former allies with her campaign.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:10 PM
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2. I pray a Kennedy challenges her for her seat.
She can move back to any one of the other 10 places she claims to be from.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:17 PM
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3. RFK Jr defended her. She will easily win re-election while Obama struggles to hold on in Illinois
after his humiliating 48-state defeat.

Steve
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Beregond2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:19 PM
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5. How are things on planet Zarkon?
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:21 PM
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8. ROFLMAO !!!
:rofl::spray::rofl:

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:23 PM
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13. United Party Obama style draws zero senior/over 45 Women support/money - good luck in Nov
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:45 PM
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26. does this affect Hillary's poll numbers or not?
cause those polls were pre-saidsomethingsoprofoundlystupiditmakesyouwonderevenifitdidntbefore-gate.

:dilemma:
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TimesNY Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:20 PM
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6. Do the words "delusional" and "fantasy" mean anything to someone like you?
Just asking!
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TimesNY Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:20 PM
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7. Do the words "delusional" and "fantasy" mean anything to someone like you?
Just asking!
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:29 PM
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19. A couple threads ago it was a 49 state defeat
Im glad to hear that Obama is picking up 1 state an hour. At that rate we're gonna need to annex a lot more territory before Nov
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:56 PM
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31. I think he will win Hawaii. Vermont too. I am being reasonable. (eom)
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muryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:06 PM
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36. You fail miserably at being reasonable
If Obama is to win 2 states, Hillary would win one.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 11:13 PM
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38. Hillary would have won this thing for us. But alas...we're Democrats. We always find a way to
snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

I know, I know...."not.this.time." Come the revolution.

Steve
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:35 PM
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22. It's like bringing up some "republican AA" and say, "SEE, they don't mind." RFK, Jr, will not allow
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:38 PM by ShortnFiery
himself to believe that HRC is that conniving. It's a psychological defense mechanism. However, with time, he will distance himself from her. Many of HRCs staunch supporters WILL NOT process the facts and fall-out of her deplorable behavior.

I understand because I didn't want to believe it either. No joke, I adored HRC during the 1990s. I lived in the Officer Housing section of a military base and constantly defended HRC against the most VILE attacks. When we would drive by the WH, I'd quip to my toddler daughter, "Look honey, that's where the President lives with her husband 'Bill.'"

BUT after researching their past behavior, I have to conclude that the Clintons are, in the least "bigots," in that, they've played WEDGE politics during their entire political career.

Please TRY to process the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton are NOT people of sound moral character?

NO, we should not hate the Clintons, but it's time for our beloved country to MOVE BEYOND the politics of division.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:48 PM
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28. Sorry - being from IL - we LOVE him. Hillary is the hated native.
And fuck you.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:56 PM
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32. There's no fucking defense of hilary..you got
link for that or are you just shootin' the shit.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:00 PM
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33. Turn on CNN right now. They are replaying AC360. That's where I saw it (eom)
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:18 PM
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4. She'll be easily re-elected and I expect her to be the next majority leader. In a couple of years
Democrats will be scratching their heads trying to figure out how they ever accepted the demagoguery of Obama, including his McCarthyism tactics to wards Hillary.

Steve
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:22 PM
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9. Do you have examples of Obama's McCarthyism tactics?
n/t
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:34 PM
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21. Smearing her as a racist when he was the one who injected race into the campaign (eom)
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:40 PM
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25. Nope. He called her & Bill on their race baiting. He did NOT say she was a racist
Try again, Stevie. You aren't even close to making your point.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:48 PM
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27. He was the one who engaged in race-baiting. But believe what you want about St. McGovern...Obama.
eom
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:52 PM
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29. a gift for you


hope you at least know up from down
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:23 PM
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11. You've been at that crystal ball too long
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:23 PM
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12. How thick is the padding on the walls of your room? eom
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:25 PM
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17. Much like your brain, her career in this party is dead.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:39 PM
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24. You don't speak for Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy, etc. Or the voters of NY (eom)
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:30 PM
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20. IgSnored
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:37 PM
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23. You funny! After today, she will be less welcome on the Hill than Senator Craig is in the can
Edited on Fri May-23-08 09:38 PM by havocmom
McCarthyism toward Hillary? Or is it a holocaust? Or is it like little Red Riding Hood and the wolf? I have SO much trouble keeping up with the ridiculous analogies Hillary ditto heads come up with.

Get over the persecution complex thing already. She had ALL the advantages, and she fucking blew it week after week until she was left with nothing but hope that she could win by default if June of 08 went like June of 68.

Hell, Nader ran better campaigns!
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:26 PM
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18. No she doesn't, and thank God for that!
Hillary as Majority Leader would be a nightmare. Talk about letting her ego ruin the political scene! She would do it as ML. No, she never gets that part.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:22 PM
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10. Reid's no sissy
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:25 PM
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16. He doesn't know how to use the media.
He let's the republicans get away with "saying" they will fillibuster and then capitulates to them instead of making them fillibuster.....

He may be a good Senator for Nevada but he sucks in making the republicans look as bad as they are.
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Kaylee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:24 PM
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14. I am trying to rationalize her statement in my mind
so I can come to a place were I can forgive her...and I can't. My unspoken fear as Barack has risen to become the forerunner is his safety. For her to use his potential assassination as a rationale for sticking around is too much. In a long list of unscrupulous things she has done during this campaign, this truly was the straw that broke the camel's back.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:25 PM
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15. She never apologized to Obama.
So your jumping the gun mighty fast here.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 09:54 PM
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30. It would be one thing if she said it once and the apologized..
but she has brought this up several times. it was no fucking mistake.

she can rot for all I can now.
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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:01 PM
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34. Harry Reid is anything but a "sissy". In fact, he's a former boxer. I like him.
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barack the house Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:05 PM
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35. It's only 2 weeks now, even with todays events it does work for Dems to have the race finalize..
Then the SDs should state their vote.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 10:08 PM
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37. DUers are not the average voter (eom)
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