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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:12 AM Original message |
"Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?" (King Henry II, 1170) |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
1. Odd, that was the first thing I thought of when I read about the unstable woman's remark |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. Are You Seriously Suggesting, My Friend, That This Was An Open Solicitation To Assassination? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:24 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Doesn't need to be. Just needs to raise the question |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. So You, Sir, Take It As A Signal For a Pre-Existing Plot To Move Into Action? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I take it as a signal to delegates and backers that history will repeat itself. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. In Other Words, Sir, The Answer Is Yes, You Think It A Signal To An Existing Assassination Plot |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Not "A Signal For a Pre-Existing Plot To Move Into Action," no. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. How Could It Be That, Sir, Without Foreknowledge Of A Prepared Means Ready To The Task? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. She could have foreknowledge with being the instigator. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #30 |
51. This will be good...... |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:44 AM Original message |
Sir.... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
35. Certainly It was An Awful And Horrible Thing To Say, Ma'am |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I understand your argument in the context of the OP |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:02 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Being Myself Neutral Between These Two, Ma'am |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. It is difficult for me to understand how one could be neutral... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I Will Back The Nominee Of The Party, Ma'am, And Am Certain That Will Be Sen. Obama |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Have I told you lately that I love you...a voice of reason... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:31 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Thank You, Ma'am: You Are Much Too Kind |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
54. There are few absolutes in this world. |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. I for one don't think it was... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I agree. |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #6 |
23. what apology? |
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Arrowhead2k1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. The same could have been said of King Henry II's remark. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
43. Exactly. "Crusade" anyone??? |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. It's not clear Henry II was asking for Becket to be assassinated. |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. ... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Surely, Sir, You Know The History Of the Matter Better Than That.... |
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intaglio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:23 AM Response to Reply #9 |
66. Yes I do |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:37 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Exactly. Henry didn't benefit from Becket's murder. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yes, he fucked up, what's the big deal anyway. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. Wasn't he 60years old or something? People who are tired make careless comments |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. How much does it take to light a fuse? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Again, Sir: Is It Your View This Was An Open Solicitation To Assassination? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I could not say that it wasn't. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:40 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Quite The Contrary, Sir: I Am Willing To State Definitely It Was No Such Thing |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. She's aid it several times, including the word "assassination," |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. It Does Not Come Within Miles Of Any Legal Definition Of A Threat, Sir |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Who said it did? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. You, Sir, Said 'It's a serious threat' And A Serious Threat Is A Legal Matter, A Crime In Itself |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes, it is a serious threat, no, it is not a prosecutable crime. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Then It Is Not a Serious Threat, Sir: If It was a Serious Threat, It Would Be a Crime |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. If the sky threatens rain, please don't send a deputy. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:20 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. How Does It 'Raise The Specter Of A C.I.A. Style Assassination', Sir? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:24 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I said it raises the specter of such an operation. You said the rest. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. This Has Degenerated Into Low Comedy, Sir |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:35 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. This really isn't a laughing matter. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:39 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Oh Yes, Sir, It Definitely Is A Laughing Matter, At Least As You Present It |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:42 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. We disagree on that point too. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Nor would, under that definition, Henry's lamentation. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:08 AM Response to Reply #31 |
46. He Spoke In The Presence Of Armed Retainers, Sir, Whose Character And Loyalties He Knew |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. He was in his cups. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. That is so. But I suspect some police forces are reviewing their records this evening. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
55. ;-) |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 04:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
65. You don't know that for a fact, though. You can state your opinion of it, is all. |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I don't think it is that cut and dried... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. He Miscalculated The Consequences, Ma'am: Violent Men Often Do |
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mcctatas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
27. That was a great post BTW... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Thank you. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Let me ask you this ... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:24 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. At The Risk Of Repeating Myself, My Friend: It Was A Damn Fool Thing To Say |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Put it this way - would you think twice before booking any Obama appearances in CA next month? |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thanks, very apropos. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
13. Hillary needs to pray really really hard |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
28. i remember that rfk was supposedly |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:54 AM Response to Original message |
33. Thanks for the reference |
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NewHampshireDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
37. Is this the classic Knisley gaffe? |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Yes... it's gotten to be a more explicit syllogism for her. |
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izzie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-24-08 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
64. I think many times the remark is casual from but others then do it. |
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