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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 08:59 AM
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It was CRUEL, it was CALLOUS, and it was CALCULATED
There has been a seed of doubt ever since Iowa with regards to Barack Obama. White people sat back and watched that amazing victory speech and were spellbound.

African Americans watched it and were terrified.

Don't belive me? You need to get tuned in. They saw how open things were and memories of Malcolm and Martin immediately sprang into mind. They feared more for Barack's life than they were able to listen to his words.

That was the cruelty in Hillary Clinton yesterday, because she put those memories back into the minds of the African American community who had rejected her.

I remember when Bobby Kennedy died. I remember him being at the pinnacle of victory and having it stripped away from him with a bullet from an assassin's gun.

And that was the callousness from Hillary Clinton yesterday because she brought memories to the forefront of how a young man who was going to change the world was at the height of his career and had it taken away in a flash.

I know Hillary Clinton is a very intelligent woman. She knows damned well that she is not going to be the nominee.

Until yesterday, I never knew the depths of vindictiveness in her heart.

And finally, that was how calculated her remarks were. She knows she's done and now she's forced the super delegates to push her out (as opposed to letting voters put Obama over the top in one of the final primaries). Her remarks will accomplish that but they accomplished one other thing.

She's now had her revenge on everybody who opposed her because now, instead of being a feear we all have held just below the surface, she has forced it to the forefront of all of our minds.

For that, I will never forgive her, nor will I ever forgive any Clinton.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:05 AM
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1. The first Black American to be a serious contender for POTUS
is by default a man with a target on his back. What Clinton realizes, only TOO well apparently, is that "Words Do Matter", particularly coming from another candidate.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:07 AM
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3. Yep, and I suspect the "Ignored" class to flock to this thread
in order to excoriate me for stating the truth about that black-hearted person, but little do they realize it doesn't matter any more. The mask has been pulled and the ugliness revealed.

I see one has already come in right below yours.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:13 AM
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6. Intelligent response. Thank you.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:06 AM
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2. Calculated, eh! The hydrophobic are spraying spittle all over her . . .
And you're calling it "calculated?"

What precisely did she calculate would be the response to such a remark?

I suspect she calculated that it'd put some historical context to her unwillingness to quit because the talking heads on Fux News say she should.

Should she have been able to calculate that the commentariat would emit so much gas that they were simultaneously ejected from their chairs? Or that the denizens of one not-very-important discussion board would spin themselves up to lightspeed?

Well perhaps she should have -- if her political instincts were as good as she thinks they are.

But she didn't. And there you have it. A gaffe with a lowercase "g" that the hysterical among us have decided is physical proof of her pact with satan.

This is beyond belief, but sadly true at the same time.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:18 AM
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8. Excuses. Always making excuses. From misplaced billing records to misplacing
her foot inside her mouth.

Please continue to make excuses for your heroine. She needs your excuses to continue on.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:50 AM
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19. Actually, it's only a gaffe when you say it *once.*
When you say it repeatedly, it's a tactic.

Hillary supporters are in full-on victim mode, which is where her campaign usually retreats when they're cold busted on yet another stupid, stupid thing the candidate said. It's become utterly predictable. Rinse, lather, repeat.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:08 AM
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4. Either Sen. Clinton is aware of what she is saying , or she isn't aware of what she is saying.
Either way she has disqualified herself as a potential presidential nominee.

Personally, I agree with your assessment.
I think she is disgusting rather than discombobulated.
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4themind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:22 AM
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9. Either way
it's a strike against her
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:12 AM
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5. she is just a part of the neocon cabal so actual evil is par for the course
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:13 AM
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7. Is that what she wanted?
Why did she want to do that?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:33 AM
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11. All through this campaign she has practiced a form of political shock and awe. From
the race baiting, to the statements that McCain is qualified but our front runner isn't, to suggesting she is hanging out in a losing campaign just in case something terrible should befall the front runner, Clinton has practiced a political shook doctrine.

Her goal seems to be to turn the Democratic party against itself so that she can somehow pick up the pieces and emerge in power, once again.

It obvious she wasn't going to win running a standard campaign. So she went to the politics of destruction in an attempt to salvage a shot at power.

This is what she wanted.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:28 AM
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10. It was clumsy phrasing, an accident, and has (mostly) been apologized for.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 09:28 AM by Orsino
There are many real reasons to question Clinton's judgement, and this ain't one of them.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:34 AM
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12. It was a prescripted TALKING POINT. Not a "gaffe". There is a real difference.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:43 AM
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14. Its a talking point - because its been rehearsed & repeated
with the same phasing and tempo - by both the candidate & her surrogates - again and again.

Its also a lie - because in '92 and '68 June was near the beginning of of the campaign, not the end.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:37 AM
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13. Same accident happened 3 times. Not an accident.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:56 AM
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15. Don't confuse Ignored with facts
Anybody who sows up as Ignored for me ignores facts.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:57 AM
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16. Clumsy phrasing is not an accident when stated on more than one occasion
as is the case with her RFK reference in defending her decision to remain in the race.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:59 AM
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17. Clumsy phrasing? She said the same thing 3 times, weeks apart. I don't think so!
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:48 AM
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18. And now that she's been called on it, I doubt it will be repeated.
Would "inadvertent" be a better word than "accidental"? I simply do not believe that Clinton is unscrupulous enough to suggest assassination deliberately.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:54 AM
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20. No: what she was doing is far more FOX-like - planting the seed of fear in people's minds,
fear associated with the worst of times in this country, to counter the "hope" factor that Obama gives us.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:57 AM
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21. That is more evil than I'm willing to credit her with. n/t
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:59 AM
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22. kicked and RECOMMENDED! Can you imagine if the tables were turned and Obama had said something like
that??
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:21 AM
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23. Thanks
IF Obama had said something similar, he'd have been forced out.

IT's the five century old American double standard at work.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:44 PM
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24. Great post

Rec!
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 09:40 AM
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25. Error: you can only recommend threads which were started in the past 24 hours
:dem:
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