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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:37 AM
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She just doesn't understand why people want her to get out.
After hearing the context of her statement and getting past the initial shock, the thing that bothers me most is the coyness about why people want her to drop out.

Its an historical curiosity. No candidate has EVER been asked to drop out before, and she is just bewildered. It seems that the conclusion Hillary wants people to come to is that the people who want her to drop out are sexist, and she is the victim.

The larger argument- that she has no realistic chance of fairly winning the nomination- well, that just hasn't occurred to her.

And the most obvious point- that the country needs to have a Democrat in the White House and her campaign is jeopardizing that- everyone understands this except the Clintons.

And to top it off, she apologizes in a manner that is directed toward the Kennedy family but not the Obama family. Once again, she simply misses the point.

She's not stupid, just shamelessly coy, manipulative, and dishonest.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:43 AM
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1. I think it is simple.
Edited on Sat May-24-08 10:43 AM by madaboutharry
She can't accept the way this has all turned out. It was supposed to have been hers and now this upstart has come along and snatched it away from her. It is too great a disappointment to bear for her. The people who love her and care about her need to step in. It has become hard to watch.

In my view, it doesn't matter what she meant. What matters is what people think she meant. Once people form an opinion, there really isn't much that can be done to change it. Not about something like this.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:54 AM
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4. Respected Democrats --
Kennedy, Dodd, e.g., have come out and SAID the "tone" of her campaign was hurting the Party. She'd lost delegates who SAY they believe her campaign is hurting the Party. That's not clear enough?
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:32 AM
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6. She isn't listening to them, apparently.
Maybe she needs to hear it from her family. I don't know.

She is just as stubborn as Bush. That is not a good thing.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:49 AM
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2. Yes. If she is being genuine in her surprise that people might want
a 5-month (so far) wrenching, increasingly-destructive primary battle to come to a definitive conclusion BEFORE the late-August convention, then what does that say about her and her thought processes and her emotional state? Another big question is, does she think it's only Obama and his supporters who wish it was over?
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:52 AM
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3. Oh she understands perfectly well what she is doing, perhaps not though that her aspirations for
Edited on Sat May-24-08 10:53 AM by WA98296
ever being elected president are gone now.

The GOP froths at the mouth over her, now most democrats are horrified by her tactics. She's done.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:27 AM
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5. And the thing is- she will never accept responsibility
for the fact that she was the biggest factor in her own undoing. Even though Obama won Iowa, this outcome was not written in stone. She was dealt a very good hand, being married to a popular Democratic ex-president, and she did not play it well.

Her own telling of the story will always be as innocent victim of sexism. Its partly true that there is sexism, but she is in no way innocent.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:52 AM
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7. Hillary didn't realize how deep The American Idol mentality is of so many idiots
The idiots don't care that BO is as vacuous as Milli Vanilli




She hates to see the country taken over by such a know nothing
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:55 AM
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8. She's a Politician she's not a Saint
Do I think she should get out of the race? The answer is YES!

But the MSN and folks here are crucifying and painting her as some kind of psychopath, over a gaffe.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:16 PM
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10. I don't think she is a psychopath.
But she has been in politics for many years and in the public eye. She should be a better politician than this by now.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 12:09 PM
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9. What happened should make it easier for insiders to talk to her about getting out
There's really no way for her campaign to sweep this under a rug. So it should make it much easier for supers to peel away from her. Who wants to be associated with someone who has such bad judgment as to use the "a" word as a talking point?
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