BO wants Bill Clinton to heal rifts in the party?

Tell me this is a joke. :rofl:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article3998946.ece

Obama calls Bill a racist, trashes his administration's accomplishments, not to mention his wife, and then expects Bill to help him out?

Is Obama really that arrogant or just plain clueless?

:wow:

A fine publication like The Times of London went to the toilet after Murdoch purchased it.

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regards femaleness, the feminine, as an undesirable condition/trait, usually associated in this context with weakness. Which of course is why those who have such views (male = strong, female = weak) use it as an intended slur on a male. Accusing a male of being feminine or feminized or associating him with the feminine is clearly a slur to those who obviously view the female, the feminine, as something undesirable and negative, a trait of the "weaker sex."

Clearly no true Hillary Clinton supporter would use such sexist and gender-demeaning language.

All feminists check in here. But I won't hold my breath.

they got nuttin

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He doesn't put his name on the ballot in Michigan, then he demands over 50% of the votes cast.

Arrogance personified.

Hillary is pretty damn arrogant!

She showed up.

She put her name on the ballot because she is a leader.

Leaders lead.

Leaders show up.

:)

:rofl: :rofl:

:hi:

Obama wins. Hillary leaves the convention.

Thanks for playing.

Ahhh, too soon? She no win nominee.

It's not going to win Hillary the nomination. Pathetic really.

When is that Burning Man Festival, anyway?

She is just silly that way

Edwards - No show.

Obama - No show.

Tou fucking ché!:bounce:

they opened.

If not, withdraw your BS statement.

He has become a reoccurring bad dream! A trade deal deluxe.

from the linked article...

"Senior officials on Obama’s campaign believe Bill Clinton has the unique status and political gifts to reunite the party after such gaffes. They expressed confidence that the former president would rise above the perceived slights and grudges of a hard-fought campaign and work flat out for an Obama victory in November’s presidential election.

“If anybody can put their arms around the party and say we need to be together, it is Bill Clinton,” a senior Obama aide said.

“He’s brilliant, he has got heart and he cares deeply about the country. It’s tricky because of his position as Hillary’s spouse, but his involvement is very important to us.

“Bill Clinton will give permission to Hillary supporters to come into our camp and become one party. He is critical to this effort.”
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Actually, its not too surprising. Obama and his campaign are pretty naive and obviously very afraid of what McCain has in store for them. Too bad they weren't keeping that in mind when they decided to divide the party and insult its best president since FDR.

You are such a lying piece of shit. Prove it..

google it.

You prove it with every sick post.

Prove it, asshat.

is just a lazy way out - and you're parroting jackson_dem's usual bullshit.

Bill Clinton is not a DU poster. He is a pro and he knows if there is any chance for Hillary to go forward for her career that they need to do as much for Obama as possible if he becomes the nominee.

Did you read the article or did you just read the headline?

By the way did you see Bill golfing with George Bush Sr. and working for Tsunami relief who said worse things about Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton than Barack or his surrogates ever said has ever said.

"Crime Control Impact: A shift in resources from communities to corrections
The money and resources spent by governments and private interests on the criminal justice system is so large that it is having a profound impact on our economy, and as a result, our society. In 1994, just two years after President Bill Clinton took office, there were 1.4 million prison and jail inmates in the U.S. and by 1997, the criminal justice system employed more than two million people,6 and cost taxpayers more than $70 billion a year. One estimate suggests that by 2002, the criminal justice system will cost taxpayers more than $200 billion annually.7 Today, there are more people working in the criminal justice system than are working in community and social service occupations (like employment, vocational, mental health and substance abuse counseling).8 Ironically, these are the occupations that are most likely to be geared towards preventing crime, and helping to rehabilitate ex-offenders, as opposed to occupations that are designed to arrest, prosecute, detain and imprison. With two million people behind bars in the U.S., and 4.5 million people on probation and parole, America ends the Clinton-era with at least 8.5 million people who are either under the control of the correctional system or working for the criminal justice system.

While everyone is affected by the nation's quadrupling of the prison population, the African American community has borne the brunt of the nation's incarceration boom. From 1980 to 1992, the African American incarceration rate increased by an average of 138.4 per 100,000 per year. Still, despite a more than doubling of the African American incarceration rate in the 12 years prior to President Clinton's term in office, the African American incarceration rate continued to increase by an average rate of 100.4 per 100,000 per year. In total, between 1980 and 1999, the incarceration rate for African Americans more than tripled from 1156 per 100,000, to 3,620 per 100,000. (See Chart III) "

http://www.cjcj.org/pubs/clinton/clinton.html

if we are going to win this in November.

I do not think there is nearly the animosity between the actual individuals involved as there is between some groups of their supporters. It will be critical that both of the Clinton show strong support of Obama and asking Bill to begin this process is not a bad idea at all.

Why is that?

I hope that the rest already know it.

He should have thought of that before he trashed Bill and Hillary and all the people who support them.

This kind of stuff may be SOP in Chicago machine politics, but not in Dem presidential primaries. Obama burned his bridges a long, long time ago. He's on his own.

I do not think they represent their candidate.

Bill Clinton isn't deaf and dumb. He knows what Obama and his campaign are saying and doing.

So do Hillary's supporters.

Supporters can believe anything they want. The candidates and those closest to them just see this as politics and, IMO, will rise above it for the good of the party.

Thanks for making me wast a click on your sorry ass.

:eyes:

I detect symptoms of PTSD among some of the delusional Hillary cadre.

Plainly Tired, Stubborn, Delusional

Seriously, as a senior member of the party he does have responsibility but given the way he has "helped" Hillary I'm a bit dubious of his potential as a uniter. I think Hillary in retrospect would have been better served with him staying home in the kitchen.

I think he has been a great service and I was very impressed with him early on when he talked about how good Hillary would be as president - she might be winning if he would have stayed on that message.

Let him win the GE on his own. He's burned waaay to many bridges, now he wants others to rebuild them for him?

I'll be the first to predict that, if by some small chance Obama lucks out and wins the WH, he will surpass Bush as the most hated president in history.

Or is it your opinion that he shouldn't? Or that Senator Obama should not ask for this or expect it? I'm pretty confused here.

He'll make nice.

but no one would fault him if he chose not to campaign for a candidate who hurled insults, lies and phony charges at him that were more venomous than anything the GOP.

You'll have a hard time finding any Dem who would criticize Bill for sitting on the sidelines.

You hated Clinton, you smeared Clinton, you insulted him and called him a racist. If you have such a low opinion of him, why would you want his support?

You people are seriously deluded and deranged.

I wouldn't support Obama even if Bill were gentlemanly enough to ask. Obama doesn't deserve the kindness and loyalty of Dem voters.

OP should be banned for implying this with no link. What a dumb fuck.

South Carolina. Jesse Jackson.

Or are all of you dumb enough to think you can force Bill to support you by denying the Obama campaign's endless charges of racism? Wow, you people really are clueless. Really.

Oh My God.. Is that your example. Bill saying Obama won because Jesse Jackson won there too? A clearly racist statement from Bill you have turned around and say from that Obama is racist..
Un-fucking-believeable..

But Obama chose to play the race card and now he has to live with the consequences.

Unite the party yourself and win your own election. Good luck.

Would Bill have said the same thing if Biden, Edwards, or any other non black would have beat her there?
Nope.. So you have drank the kool aid and have taken the Clinton talking point to turn that around? This is the reason people are fed up with them and people like you.

She can say that she and McCain have experience and he doesnt.
She can say that he is elitist and out of touch with people.
She can say people will vote for her but not him, etc..
And all he does is life her up..

But when Bill says Obama won because Jesse Jackson did, Obama surrogates call him on it and because of that Obama is racist? Holy shit, that is some dumb shit on Bills part and then he drags this out for months just like you..

This is the reason her negatives are higher then any other nominee in history.

Also the reason supers are running from her like a STD.

:rofl:

Rationalize it all you want. Your candidate isn't going to get any help from Bill Clinton or any of the Clinton supporters you've called STD's, racists, bigots, etc.

You're on your own. Hope you can win with 35% of the party's base. Good luck :hi:

I'm sure the majority of Dems dont want Bill on the campaign fucking it up for Obama any way like he did for Hillary.

And all the dems will come over to Obama. Though people like you will vote for McCain which is for the better any way, Obama does not want votes from racists.. You should start finding a good McCain forum so you can continue to spread false racist statements because they will not fly here much longer..

I've never heard Obama say it. Where is your quote?

"Mucifer calls Bill Clinton a racist" see my post above.

I think what he did as president is more important than a few things he said in the campaign.

And your stats show you to be correct...

and he should also allow you to trash his wife and call her vulgar names?

Don't be surprised if Bill disagrees with you.

as president. I don't know that Hillary would do such a vial thing to the African American community but he did. Look at the stats I linked.

Actually it's true he apologized for some of what he did. But, I don't forgive him.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anthony-papa/clintons-crack-cocaine-a_b_89881.html

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Never been over there but if its true its a royal shame.

aggressive Obama fans have infiltrated this place. :puke:

Welcome to DU.. :sarcasm:

the actual headline

"Barack Obama wants Bill to heal Hillary Clinton wounds....."

your headline

"BO wants Bill Clinton to heal rifts in the party?"

Assholes.

and Obama can win it on his own, without Bill Clinton's help.

and the Monica jokes.

Cold day in hell, Obama fans, cold day in hell.

It goes both ways.

Hate Bill all you want, he won't help Obama win.

Screwing yourself over by blaming Bush administration atrocities on a good Democratic president, then expecting him to bail your candidate out.

You don't have a very bright future ahead of you.

BTW I was a prisoner's rights activist during the 90's so I know what I'm talking about and we worked with CJCJ who did lots of research on this.

http://www.cjcj.org/pubs/clinton/clinton.html

"While everyone is affected by the nation's quadrupling of the prison population, the African American community has borne the brunt of the nation's incarceration boom. From 1980 to 1992, the African American incarceration rate increased by an average of 138.4 per 100,000 per year. Still, despite a more than doubling of the African American incarceration rate in the 12 years prior to President Clinton's term in office, the African American incarceration rate continued to increase by an average rate of 100.4 per 100,000 per year. In total, between 1980 and 1999, the incarceration rate for African Americans more than tripled from 1156 per 100,000, to 3,620 per 100,000. (See Chart III)"

They should then urge their supporters to vote their conscience and let the chips fall where they may...

Talk about living in a fairy tale.

You guys are on your own. Bed made - go sleep in it. Good luck. :rofl:

Let him rise or fall of his own weight...That's what his supporters want...

that bit of "information".

Maybe you can get Giuliani to help Obama. :shrug:

I think it's reasonable to assume that Barack would be the about the last person to trust Bill Clinton to do him a favor.

cares, about another person who also cares. The two have had a pretty serious fight, but at the bottom they can look at each other and shrug it off and work together on the things they care about, whether they like each other or not.

That's what grown up's do, and it's sure as hell what politicians do. I don't like it sometimes, but I've seen it go around often enough to know what it is. Whatever game you're playing, it's not politics. You may not like the politics being played, but that's the name of the game.

Bill Clinton will do exactly what he wants to in support of Senator Obama. Luckily, he will make that decision, not you.

or they wouldn't have waged such a negative, divisive campaign. They made their choices, they knew the consequences and now they're going to have to live with it.

This Convention certainly isn't going to be a picnic. Maybe the DNC will let Obama bus in some supporters for the event. I suspect half the Dems will either go home early or sit in stony silence.

members of the 'Obama Campaign'. For what it's worth, I'll tell you that they do, indeed, care, and they care deeply. They care about the country, about the people who live in it and the world that surrounds us. I understand that you're not seeing that, now, but I can only tell you what I know to be true. I imagine that you'll say that I'm wrong or deluded and I'm certain that's possible. I don't believe that's the case.

It's not a joke, Ozark. But it does put Bill in a position to show what kind of man he is.
We already know what kind of woman Hillary is.

Hill and Bill will most likely continue down their lonely low road.

But, it can't be honestly said that Obama didn't try, yet again.

The Democratic party will be united.....you don't trust Clinton any more.

Just a week to go. :party:

forgiving nature in the past. I know he's apparently forgiven people that I would never have spoken to again. Will he help Barack? Maybe not. He appears to be genuinely angry this time about at least some of Obama's attacks on his wife. I don't know.

a post like that. Where is YOUR unity?

Do you usually "unify" with people who call you everything under the sun and pretty much make it clear that they consider you less than them; a rural midwestern, over 45, female, low IQ (their opinion) hick stereotype?