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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:15 PM
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The problem with Clinton's General Election argument - you don't poll you have to campaign

The problem is that she starts out high and when she actually has to campaign her support goes down.

1) The evidence shows that she had a commanding lead but in the 8 months of campaigning has lost support.




2) Now Obama has a larger lead over Clinton in NY State






The simple fact is she is a terrible campaigner and has squandered the advantages of name brand, money, connections and a schedule of primaries that was rigged for her. Even in NY her numbers have gone down.

In any case it is all theoretical what is reality the more Clinton campaigns the lower her numbers go down.

The more Obama campaigns the higher his numbers go.

To continue the meme that she does better in the GE just doesn't square with the actual results of her campaigning.

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thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:19 PM
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1. The more you get to know her, the more you get to know her.
Top of the evening to you grantcart! K&R
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:55 PM
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8. Isn't that the truth?!
Who knew this would be Hillary??
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ossman Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:43 PM
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2. Thanks for the large font. The over 65 crowd is all Hillary suppporters so it should be viewable
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:52 PM
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5. well the regular font wasn't working lol
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:17 PM
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14. Another ageism remark from an Obama fan.
You people have nothing left.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:44 PM
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3. Not if you're expecting to stroll into a coronation ceremony. n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:53 PM
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6. I just finished this reply to Nancy's article and well - you will see the funny coincidence.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:07 PM
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9. I was going to swear and scream I never saw your post beforehand
and then noticed the time. What a bizarre warm coincidence!

I never heard of him before. This is great! It's always fun reading your posts ;)
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:46 PM
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4. Exactly
The more she campaigns the lower her numbers go. Everywhere she goes except for Appalachia for some unknown reason.
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 09:55 PM
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7. grantcart
I'm with Keith. The more you ignore her....... She's done.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:12 PM
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11. Well I have mostly stopped if you happened to notice anything I put out lately
but its like smoking = hard to go cold turkey lol
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Condem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:14 PM
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13. Just waitin for the official celebration, grantcart
before we move on to bigger and better things!
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:14 PM
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12. I have been searching history for possible solutions
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 10:09 PM
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10. i think it was the negative tone of her campaign and her incompetent campaign staff.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-27-08 11:26 PM
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15. I've not seen negative like this against one in your own party.....
ever.

Not since I have been living anyways.
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