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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:49 AM
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Andrea Mitchell said the Obama campaign said they might lose SD and that Montana is competitive. She
also said they expect a Clinton blowout in Puerto Rico. Chuck Todd said that Obama might roll out SD's on Monday so that he can claim victory on Tuesday night during prime time coverage (because of the elections). He said it depends on how big Clinton's win is in PR. He said some of the SD's might be too queasy if there is a landslide. There was no doubt that Obama would win but they are not sure how it will play out. Oh and he said he talked to some of the TOP ranking House members and said Obama is banking them up to come out after the primary is over. Man...I can't wait until this time next week.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:51 AM
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1. I thought that Andrea said that
Obama has a lead in Montana, and South Dakota was competetive, and PR would be a blowout? Though I guess, it's not really much of a difference.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:53 AM
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3. No, I'm pretty sure she said that they might lose SD and that the Clintons were going
to be spending a lot of time in SD the next few days. I guess internals are saying they could win it.
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:56 AM
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7. well, I interpret "competetive" as it could go either way,
and both could win it or lose it, but that's just me, lol. But I agree, Clinton is going to try and spend more time there to flip it. But Andrea def said Montana is still a likely win for Obama.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:10 AM
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13. Yes, she did say that about Montana. I just don't like to hear that SD is competitve at all because
initially everyone was saying it was an Obama state (like there was no contest). I know I'm probably making more of it because I'm worried about it. I know she can't catch up but I really want him to end strong (with two wins).
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:12 AM
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16. yeah, I feel like every other state had about 5 polls per week
giving us an update, and I feel like we're kind of in the dark more about Montana and SD, haha. Oh well, I think he will do well in both states.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:57 AM
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8. Clinton internals were also showing that she might win North Carolina.
It's why she spent so much time there, and why they sent Bill Clinton on a Tobacco Road Blitz for days on end.

Obama won North Carolina by 14 points. Maybe it's a bad idea to have Mark Penn simultaneously running your campaign and providing your internal polling, eh? It's a rather self-sustaining arrangement.
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:11 AM
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14. I hope his is wrong again! lol nt
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:39 AM
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27. While Hillary sank in NC, other female candidates won top contests in primary
so no one can scream misogyny.

We had a women win the Dem primary for US Senate, beating her male opponent,
we had a women win the Dem primary for the Gubenatorial contest.
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BigDaddy44 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:51 AM
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2. So let me see if i understand this...
Some SD's might be queasy if there's a landslide in Puerto Rico, which isn't even a damn state.

Why does PR even GET a primary?
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:54 AM
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5.  I know. I feel the same way. You would think SD's would
see it that way too. Who knows? :(
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:06 AM
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9. US Territory
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:19 AM
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19. Yeah, how dare they be given a vote.
They only exist to serve The Empire.

Bombs Away!
:patriot:
The World's Only Superpower

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:54 AM
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4. Obama will win MT by double-digits and win SD by 6-10. PR goes to Hillary by 15.
My predictions.

...Not that it matters. Victory is Obama's.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:07 AM
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10. Keep dreaming.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:10 AM
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12. You're cute.
No substance, as usual.

What exactly do you dispute?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:13 AM
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17. The outcome of the primaries.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:43 AM
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29. Most recent Montana poll has Obama beating Clinton 52-35
:patriot:
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:34 PM
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35. And that's called - beating her like a rented mule!!
Edited on Wed May-28-08 08:36 PM by Major Hogwash
Because you don't care how bad you beat the ass that isn't yours!!

At least, that's how we say it out here in Idaho!!
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 07:55 AM
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6. sounds like the expectations game is being played
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:11 AM
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15. I hope so. nt
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:08 AM
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11. Sounds like Team Obama is trying to manage expectations. n/t
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hokies4ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:15 AM
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18. Her Puerto Rico logic made no sense
A superdelegate is going to rethink Obama because he can't win Puerto Rico? How many electoral votes do they have again? Makes no sense whatsoever. :rofl:
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:20 AM
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20. Puerto Rico is important for their electoral votes
They're very important in that regard.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:44 AM
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30. "Puerto Rico does not have a vote in the Electoral College"

Puerto Rico’s Moment in the Sun

By MICHAEL JANEWAY
Published: May 22, 2008


...Puerto Rico’s formal role in the process is indeed weighty. Its 63 voting delegates — 55 elected ones and eight superdelegates — at the Democratic National Convention in Denver this summer will outnumber delegations from more than half the states (including Kentucky and Oregon) and the District of Columbia. Yet Puerto Rico does not have a vote in the Electoral College, nor will its 2.5 million registered voters cast ballots for president in November....




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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:24 AM
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21. If you REALLY believe that. Here is your chance to make a TUN of money on Intrade Market!!
Edited on Wed May-28-08 08:54 AM by Douglas Carpenter
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:28 AM
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22. I still think
he should be spending more time campaigning in the two remaining states and Puerto Rico.
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malik flavors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:33 AM
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23. Has there been a poll out of SD yet?
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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:36 AM
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24. Not since early April
had Obama up 12.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:36 AM
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25. Is this called "managing expectations"? I think that's what the Obama campaign is doing.
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Doityourself Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:38 AM
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26. PR can't even vote in the GE..and they don't want statehood, so a blowout means nada to me
Edited on Wed May-28-08 08:39 AM by Doityourself
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:42 AM
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28. Latest Montana Poll: Obama 52, Clinton 35 - May 19-21
http://missoulian.com/articles/2008/05/25/news/local/news02.txt

It depends upon what the definition of "competitive" is. :-)
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:49 AM
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31. From the Billings Gazette:
"In a closer look at the Democratic poll primary results, Obama leads Clinton among every subgroup except in Eastern Montana.

Obama is ahead of Clinton among men by 58 percent to 33 percent and among women by 48 percent to 36 percent, the poll showed.

Voters younger than 50 favor Obama by 56 percent to 30 percent, while those 50 and older back Obama 49 percent to 39 percent, it showed. The rest are undecided.

In the 18 counties in Western Montana, Obama holds a commanding 62 percent to 25 percent lead over Clinton, the poll showed. These counties include Gallatin, Flathead, Lewis and Clark, Missoula, Ravalli and Silver Bow.

Clinton leads Obama 47 percent to 40 percent in the 38 counties designated as Eastern Montana in the poll. These counties include Cascade and Yellowstone.

"Obviously, Obama is the favorite," said Brad Coker, managing director of Mason-Dixon Polling & Research. "We're seeing the same patterns we're seeing elsewhere. His strength is with male voters and voters under 50. Clinton does better but still trails with voters over 50 and with women.""

link:

http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2008/05/25/news/state/26-statepoll_s.txt
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:28 PM
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33. Interesting! Thanks for the info. I feel pretty good about Montana..little worried about SD but I
think he has a pretty good shot at winning that too.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 05:29 PM
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32. Why would the SD's care about Puerto Rico?
It's not like it's a test of electability or anything...they don't even vote in US elections!
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-28-08 08:33 PM
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34. Chuck Todd told Keith Olbermann tonight it won't matter after Tuesday!!!
Because there are NO MORE PRIMARIES!!!!!!!!

What is she going to do, cry?

She can't get enough pledged delegates to catch Obama now even if she wins all 3 states by 100%!!!!

It's over, Obama is banking super delegates to take him over the 2210 threshold!!!

Ka-fucking-boom!!
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