I just had a GREAT idea on how to settle this: Push BOTH Hillary and Obama to pick a V.P. NOW!

Let's get the V.P. Choice out there and done NOW, BEFORE the Democratic Convention! Everything else this year has been changed and sped up, why not this?

That way, if Obama or Hillary pick someone Great, then all the better, we can start comparing and contrasting their picks, but if one of them makes a really BAD choice, we can see that now and don't get stuck with another Lieberman type choice when it's too late, at the convention.

Now, please don't get me wrong, my objection to Lieberman is not an "anti-Jewish thing," my family is VERY religiously mixed and I come from a VERY long line of Rabbis, it just that Lieberman was a TERRIBLE V.P. choice and, I think, sank Al Gore in 2000.

But back to the issue above, I find my biggest fear about Obama is that I think he has a VERY "weak bench" (very few good choices for V.P. and his cabinet) and a terrible V.P. pick, by Obama, I think is probably my biggest fear and the fear of most of us "old people" (I'm 44) who have been around a while and seen this sort of hype before, so let's get it done NOW! What's you got?

Now I don't know who Hillary's might pick will be either if things go her way in the next month or so (and it still could), so I think a great V.P. pick from Obama would get me to switch to him, but a really bad one, or a great pick by Hillary would solidify my support behind her.

Now I know, the Obama "supporters" are going to hate this idea, so try to ignore the really hateful comments this post is going to get, I know I am.

:shrug:

What are ya, Chicken?:scared:

Get a clue.

boring games.

giving it a good try, I'll give 'er that.

THAt'S A WINNING TICKET! And this is a good idea. I had thought the same thing many times. If Hillary had announced that Wes Clark would be her running mate...she'd be in first place now!

Thanks for your positive feed-back, it very rare around here (at DU) these days.:toast:

...steel cage match over the candidate!

"Two go in! One comes out! Two go in! One comes out!"

:woohoo:

...and then we don't get stuck with the dud, hold your nose and vote pick in November.

...it's O.K., but not great.

Have you floated this ticket in your circles? And if so, what was the reaction?

See, this could be a problem, because just about anyone he picks is going to be a sort of a let down, I think.

If "just about anyone" that Obama picks is going to be a letdown...

But really...it's in the superdelegates' hands to put the nominee over the top. Are you seriously thinking that the rest of superdelegates would be swayed to Hillary - even though she's steadily blown a 100+ superdelegate lead thanks to her negative campaigning - if she suddenly made a great VP pick?

I would like to see Clinton take Clark and see Obama take either Bloomberg or Powell.

Clark would help Clinton counter McCain's argument that he has more knowlege about Iraq.

Bloomberg would help Obama on the economy, and Powell would help Obama on Iraq.

...that would give me even more confidence in her. Your other picks, not so much, both of those picks wouldn't sway me his way.

Other than a Hillary VP that is?

...if I do actually vote in the November "election" here in the Diebold State of Georgia (which isn't likely) I'm going to be holding my nose if the choice is Obama.

I say I might not vote in November be cause EVERY ELECTION since Diebold took over the vote counting here in 2002 has been RIGGED. Yes EVERY ELECTION. The only candidates who have won since then have won because the GOP and Diebold wanted them to win.

They have been very crafty, letting just enough Democrats win in very Democratic areas so as not to raise questions in the complicit MSM. I've come to the conclusion that going in and voting on these machines just makes things worse, adding to the delusion of real Elections here. Get Obama to start talking about how he's going to trash our Diebold machines and fund new ones with a paper trail and I'll consider voting for him, but so far, he's said nothing. Not surprising really, as our fraudulent 2008 primary went to him.

The gist of your post is that if Hillary and Obama each pick a VP candidate now, it would somehow have an effect on the nomination. However, the nomination battle is already over - sure, it's not official yet, just like McCain is not officially the Republican nominee until their convention.

So I don't "hate this idea", but I see your reasoning as flawed. It's like saying that a football game that has 2 minutes left, with one team ahead by 28 points, should have a mascot or cheerleading contest to decide which team should win the game.

It would be symbolic. Plus one less political career would be damaged.

For you.

...into the light of day, so that everyone can see what the choices are and what we might face in November.

This picking a V.P. behind closed doors crap has screwed us Democrats over in too many Elections in the last 50 years, if we ever needed "Change" on any ONE thing, this is it and is my wish for "Change," and if Obama REALLY is for change, CHANGE this process.

Are you suggesting that Obama hold interviews with potential VP prospects in public? Your logic is lacking...

Not one response.

:)

and then we can see who can beat him.

so that wouldn't settle anything.

1. one of the biggest one being the elections are OVER in less than a week. Only 2 states haven't yet voted. So how do you pick the "winner" of the vice-presidential sweepstakes?

2. It's against the RULES. They have set down rules to decide who is going to be the nominee from among the candidates running. You don't change the RULES in the middle of the election (I know Clinton and many of her supporters have a hard time with this point).

3. (I know, I said a couple) If you're going to pick say, Clark(Clinton) or Richardson (Obama) why aren't Clark and Richardson the nominees?(Because either they didn't run, or they ran and didn't get enough votes in the first place).

4. Because, barring some catastrophe, Obama is already the nominee. The race is already as good as over.

eternal damnation. The only way she can win this primary is to steal it by using a guessing game of numbers.