Obama: I'll review every Bush executive order with my AG & overturn any that violate Constitution

DENVER - Maybe it’s his background teaching constitutional law. If elected president, Democratic White House hopeful Barack Obama said one of the first things he wants to do is ensure the constitutionality of all the laws and executive orders passed while Republican President George W. Bush has been in office.

Those that don’t pass muster will be overturned, he said.

During a fund-raiser in Denver, Obama — a former constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago Law School — was asked what he hoped to accomplish during his first 100 days in office.

“I would call my attorney general in and review every single executive order issued by George Bush and overturn those laws or executive decisions that I feel violate the constitution,” said Obama.

http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/2008/05/28/bushs-laws-will-be-scrutinized-if-i-become-president-obama-says/

:kick:

it is somewhat sad that simply having a government that will obey our laws is now akin to Eternal Reward. Just shows how far short we've fallen from American ideals.

but, the days of reckoning are coming....ah say...

THE DAYS OF RECKONING ARE COMING

Gobama.

NGU.

Man that would be sweet.

crimes issue as well.

Sen. Obama will not go so far shake up the status quo, IMHO. The powers-that-be do not see Sen. Obama as being the leader of a populist revolt, that is why he is within field-goal range of the White House.

I believe he will offer a new kind of Presidency, one that is much more open and inclusive than any before. I do not, however, see him going right after the former President and Vice President.

In this link we can see him talk about the Patriot Act, bush's efforts to increase the power of the executive branch and Sen. Obama's relationship to the Council on Foreign Relations:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6HjTiOu2U0

And why shouldn't he go immediately after that asshole boondocking the white house (For 7 years I've refused to acknoledge him as the "P" word since clearly he did not legally win either of those elections).

Even after he's elected in November he won't do so, as there is a lot of funky games that could happen before the end of the year to subvert any prosecution of the existing administration (resigning and pardoning creatively, etc. over the last month or so). They still might play these games anyway, but as long as Obama doesn't say he's going after them, he'll not guarantee that they'll play that sort of prosecution avoidance game.

If he does go after them, and try to put in place a real process governed by the rule of law, and not just a "partisan witch hunt" atmosphere, I'm hoping that we make these officials accountable.

But sadly, if the Democrats don't pursue impeachment before the end of the year, they will send the message that future presidents can get away with what they want as long as they are in office, and that if they don't protect their rear ends before they leave (or in fact DON'T leave) they will perhaps avoid getting prosecuted (if we do go after them after the fact).

They might lead to a martial law situation in the future, if it doesn't this time around. Even if we don't follow through on a full conviction of this administration for impeachment, just starting it and passing an impeachment resolution in the House will send a message that presidents in the future will ultimately be met with a challenge while in office for their actions, and playing games of how to "immunize" themselves before leaving office, or trying not to leave office at all, won't be an option then. That will hopefully be a far better set of incentives to avoid having this sort of administration from happening again.

One constitutional amendment I'd like to see put in place (and I'd thought earlier that perhaps Dems might want to try and work with "threatened" Rethugs as a compromise to pass this in an unvetoable fashion) would be to restrict pardons to only people not employed by/appointed by the current executive (or the immediate previous administration - aka Gerald Ford) to prevent the blanket immunization from accountability that will inevitably happen when criminal administrations leave office. That would probably perhaps also set in place another disincentive for criminal acts by future administrations too.

And I know there will be tons of shit to throw out the window!

what else ya got?

...within an hour or so of his inauguration... I remember that scene so vividly,as Trent Lott, Hastert, and the others looked on with glee..

And Bush did it en masse, and with no case by case deliberation on "constitutionality". Moreover, there was NO indication in his campaigning that he'd do that.

Q: Has HRC issued a similar statement?

pnorman

These links are from Feb. 5, 08.

Clinton Won't Commit To Renew Constitution
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574


H. C. refuses to pledge to restore constitutional liberties
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2856


Edit: This link is from November 2007:

Clinton Refuses To Sign the Freedom Pledge
http://unionreview.com/hillary-clinton-refuses-sign-freedom-pledge

F*ck HRC!!! She is an embarassment to the Democratic Party.

.... second that proclamation! She's SO pathetic, dressed in desperation! x(

I mean COME ON!

for anyone wondering who to vote for. Really, the ultimate dealbreaker.

No upholding the Constitution, no democracy. It's that simple after all.

Keep it up. I'd like to see this country turn back into America.

Gobama!

:thumbsup:

...Obama and Edwards having a series of sit-downs to put in the necessary corrections. And what a nice image that was...

:patriot:

politically speaking, of course :)

would make a superb AG..

Just the vision of Obama and Edwards shredding all this Bush Crime Family Bullshit, is enough to get me through the day.

I hope they go back even further than that. Back to January 20, 1981 should be about right....

bring back Carter's energy policy, and bring them up to date with today's technology.

Bring back the Fairness Doctrine, and shred the 1996 Telecommunications Act. Death to the right wing corporate whore media.

Abolish NAFTA, and all the other bullshit "free" trade shit that followed.

Write HR 676 into law, on the basis that it was what President Truman intended way back in 1947.

:thumbsdown:

We need expose everything these clowns have done and hold them accountable.

I can't wait until 2009.

BTW, shouldn't this be posted in GD?

It's talking about Obama's platform, ergo, it's primaries-related.

:patriot:

it's also the main reason why I've been supporting him!!!

in response to the question "I know you've talked about reconciliation and moving on, but there's also the issue of justice, and a lot of people -- certainly around the world and certainly within this country -- feel that crimes were possibly committed" regarding torture, rendition, and illegal wiretapping. I wanted to know how whether his Justice Department "would aggressively go after and investigate whether crimes have been committed."

answer:


http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Barack_on_torture.html

an Obama presidency...but I also worry about the repercussions of him putting this out there. LOTS of big names do NOT want this at all.

...will restore our democracy!

It's about damn time!

Edwards, VP and Patrick Fitzgerald, Ag. or either on the Supreme Court. Edwards would make Obama, dare we say it? more assassin-proof. Webb would make the blue collar men happier, but Webb would not be as "a" proof for Obama.

Yes!!!!!!!

C'mon Clinton supporters... if that doesn't make his case, what will?

GOBAMA!!!

dealing with the various criminalities of the bush administration. All I have heard is what good buddies bill clinton and daddy boosh are, but maybe I'm just out of the loop here.

and continue business as usual.

to keep the Unitary Executive that CHeney put into place so thoughtfully!

link

It would be big news if Clinton had changed her stance on pledging to restore the Constitution.

I would hope a full investigation was in order... not just using the information we already have, but a bona fide full on investigation.

In order for the healing to begin, the wound must first be scrubbed clean of infection!

AND an exorcist!

Hell, if it were me, I'd invite ANY clergy from ANY faith to do a blessing, a cleansing, a smudging, a whatever - to drive out every last evil spirit left there by bushco.

Pelosi hid impeachment under her freakin' table.

Now THAT would unite all, without question!

I want someone who knows Constitutional Law. Not an ambulance chaser! x(

A good start, but...

Why stop with Bush? There are DECADES of executive orders sitting on the books. They should all be reviewed for constitutional muster, not just the past eight years worth.

energy - I bet he could get through them all.

John Edwards is NOT a Constitutional Law expert. He's a friggin' ambulance chaser!

How about Biden? How about Kathleen Sullivan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Sullivan)? How about Jonathan Turley?

How about someone who knows something about the Constitution and not someone who used law to line his own pockets.

I still contend Edwards is the biggest phoney who ran.

would be a more accurate portrayal. I personally feel there are not enough of them, and corporations should be held to higher standards, but that's just me, YMMV.

But yes I will concede that Kathleen Sullivan or Jonathan Turley would be far more qualified for AG, and how about Walter Dellinger for the Supreme Court? Dellinger is also a reknowned con law expert and clerked for Hugo Black.

:sarcasm:

:rofl:

NGU.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7y-x2fWKbmo&feature=related

Callin' out around the world
Are you ready for a brand new beat?
Summer's here and the time is right
For dancin' in the streets
They're dancin' in Chicago
Down in New Orleans
Up in New York City

All we need is music, sweet music
There'll be music everywhere
There'll be swingin', swayin' and records playin'
And dancin' in the streets

Oh, it doesn't matter what you wear
Just as long as you are there
So come on, every guy grab a girl
Everywhere around the world
There'll be dancin'
They're dancin' in the street

This is an invitation
Across the nation
A chance for the folks to meet
There'll be laughin' and singin' and music swingin'
And dancin' in the streets

Philadelphia, P.A. (Philadelphia, P.A.)
Baltimore and DC now (Baltimore and DC now)
Yeah don't forget the Motor City (can't forget the Motor City)

All we need is music, sweet music
There'll be music everywhere
There'll be swingin', swayin' and records playin'
And dancin' in the street, yeah

Oh, it doesn't matter what you wear
Just as long as you are there
So come on, every guy grasp a girl
Everywhere around the world
There'll be dancin'
They're dancin' in the streets

Philadelphia, P.A. (Philadelphia, P.A.)
Baltimore and DC now (Baltimore and DC now)
Yeah don't forget the Motor City (can't forget the Motor City)
All the way down in L.A. California
Not to mention Halifax Nova Scotia
Manchester
Alexandria, Virginia, Virginia

I think the continual outrage wars can keep us from seeing reports like this - if we were listening to each other and discussing civilly, instead of shouting and insulting, we would KNOW these things.
Obama has been very consistent on constitutional issues, and is the main reason he got my support.

I have been staying out of the battle zone here, glad to see you are still with us.:hi:

Here's to victory in November! :toast:

FINALLY, Obama speaks on one of the most egregious un-constitutional acts of the Bush maladministration.

Still waiting for definitive statements on GitMo, torture, wiretapping and Habeus Corpus, but it's a start....

Habeus Corpus, and I think we all know how he feels about GitMo, Torture, wiretapping, etc.

We've been waiting decades for a candidate like this.

OBAMA 2K8

Now THAT'S what I want to hear!!!

:bounce: Another example of why Obama is the best choice.

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_8492078

It's been discussed previously on this site. I remember because someone here argued that it was "extremely frightening" and a "power grab bigger than Bush's".

This is the real reason he has my support. Everything else is just a sideshow.

Get it?

If Hillary had anounced this I'd be cheering her on too.

You should be a Democrat first and foremost.

You need to re-examine your priorities real soon.

He panders...and LIES!

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And never have you managed to do it.

You know what, I'll just post another response to you and put a finer point on it.

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your talking points don't help Hillary nor the eventual GE candidate. Many here wonder if you really are a democrat, including me.

It's an automaton, It doesn't care about Democratic principles, It can't be bargained with! It can't be reasoned with! It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until Obama has lost!

Watch, I'll show you...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6162011&mesg_id=6169283

This constitutional principle, pronounced by the United States Supreme Court since Ex parte Yarborough (1884) and reiterated as recently as Gray v. Sanders (1963), is simply beyond reproach. This rock-bottom constitutional demand applies to primaries as well as general elections. United States v. Classic (1941). Deliberately refusing to count votes cast may, under certain fact scenarios, constitute a Federal crime, United States v. Classic, citing now Section 241 of the Federal Crimes Code. Reiterating black letter law stated in Harper v. Virginia Board of Elections (1966), the high court reasserted in Bush v. Gore (2000) that "once granted the right to vote on equal terms, the State may not, by later arbitrary and disparate treatment, value one person's vote over that of another."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6174351&mesg_id=6174351

That outta do it... good luck.

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Here... let me help you...

http://560wind.townhall.com/columnists/PeterJWirs/2008/05/28/specter_demands_sanity_check_on_obamas_hypocrisy

Idiot.

If you are too A) vainglorious B) greedy C) stupid to take that necessary first step, then you do not deserve to have a voice.

Then those states should have followed them.
The primaries are a party affair. We are trying to pick a candidate.
If the party has rules, then the party should enforce them.
This is not the GE, so it's not a question of disenfranchisement.
Republicans don't get to vote in our primaries, either. Are they being disenfranchised?
This is a party thing. The party sets the rules.

There are real issues of disenfranchisement-issues that could change the results in the GE- swirling around us right now.
That is something to pay attention to.

Plus, it strikes me as desperation on the part of the HRC campaign.
Why do they think they would win in FL? I don't think they would.

Also, where does it say that the vainglorious, greedy and stupid shouldn't have a voice?
Perhaps someone should tell them. Their voices seem rather loud about now.

At first, I thought the concept was somehow unpatriotic. Now, I'm damn glad I went and ignored some of the worst offenders!

I learned when I was 4 to play by the rules rather than trying to change them in the middle of the game (no matter how "unfair" I thought they were if I was losing).

Pity that you and your candidate have yet to learn that lesson.

....

Doo-DO-doo-do-doo-do-doo, do-doo-do-doo-DO-doo-doo-doo-doo-do, doo-do-doo-do-DO-do-do, DOO-do-do-do-doo-doo-doo...

...

It's bullshit, and you know it.

Three cheers for our next president!

The only person I truly believed would have done that is Kucinich. Glad to hear our next president say he'll do it.

Said he would restore the COnstitution in his 1st `100 days. ( in one of the debates)
Too bad no one was paying attention! The real basis of the problem now!!

That has to be the best quote I've ever seen in my life. If that isn't a bumper sticker, or T-shirt it really should be... and I'd be first in line.

He finally confirmed it!!

Between this and the McClellan revelations this is turning out to be a damn good day.

just start over.

Every one of Shrub's little diktats will be consigned to the dustcan of history. Obama knows the importance of due process, though, so he'll be sure to give each and every one careful consideration before dropping them in the round file. To do otherwise would be to act as capriciously as Little Boots himself.

Anyway, it's important to know exactly which parts of the Constitution Chimpy violated when compiling the arrest warrant. ;)

Yes the country is in shambles, and some things (like fuel prices I'm afraid) will never be the same, but what would be depressing is if the GOP had a candidate that stood a chance and we had to endure at least four more years of destruction.

Habeus Corpus makes it's return!!!

Wouldn't it be funny if Clinton WAS his AG?? :wow:

The first job of the new President will be to reveiw Bush's Presidency.

THIS is the kind of change I've been waiting for.

;)

:spray: You owe me a new keyboard... ;)

This is my vision....

On January 20th, President Obama is sworn in, with the beauteous Michelle at his side,
and surrounded by a throng of hopeful, strong, faith-filled suppporters..

and as the gospel choir swings into a vibrant version of "Lift Every Voice and Sing.."

The tv screen diminishes the inauguration, to 'breaking news.." the scene of
federal marshalls handcuffing and leading away our domestic lawbreakers...
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeldt, Rove, et al... on the perp walk on the most glorious
day of our history..

Are you praying this vision with me?

It would do a lot to erase the vision of the hostages returning from Iran during Reagan's inauguration.

"I, John Forbes Kerry, do solemnly swear to faithfully execute... So help me, God.
Agents, please take Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney into custody."

Maybe this time, but probably not. It will be the same rationale as Ford pardoning Nixon -- heal the wounds, unite the country... blah, blah, blah. Me, I feel differently. Let justice be done though the heavens fall. At the very least, we need a Truth and Reconciliation Commission, but I can't imagine the BFEE ever admitting guilt, fault or wrongdoing even under the protection of immunity.

It would be great if President Obama's people would review every hire since 2000, with esp. hard looks at JoD, from the guys who park the cars on up. Check them for their qualifications and if their sole 'achievement' is graduation from Patrick Henry, Regent or Jerry Falwell's place, give them new jobs as copy clerks where all they do all day is copy big city phone books.

GOBAMA!!!

I hope the next AG is Edwards.

:yourock: n/t

since that is not the power of the executive branch and therefore violates the Constitution? That has been one of the ways that W. has abused his signing statements---the pretend that he is Congress. I would like to see every single signing statement declared invalid and the DOJ and federal agencies instructed not to enforce any of them, whether or not they are "Constitutional."

First is to legally challenge any executive orders that have been deemed unconstitutional. The other method would have Congress pass new legislation to overturn the EO.

K&R

i had my fingers crossed on this one. i was pretty sure he loved the constitution enough to make sure it was restored. i got a sneaking suspicion that he just might count the votes, too.

:kick:

:bounce:

just give him a chance and listen to what he has to say.

There may be EO's that are constituional but not in the best interest of the country or are questionable as to purpose.

:patriot:

Is president I think he will investigate the Bush Cabal. He should let the UN try them. I think the trial should be held in Iraq like Saddam got. And when found guilty let the people of Iraq have a day with Bush/Cheney and the rest. Set them free in the streets of Iraq and let the hunt begin.

Oh, man, does this do my heart some good.



Bush’s laws will be scrutinized if I become president, Obama says

Reuters
May 28, 2008






Here is the scoop from the Boston Globe on Bush's *signing statements*.

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff
April 30, 2006






Bush’s contention that he can ignore provisions of the Patriot Act, whose renewal he ushered last month, has drawn scrutiny. (Jim Young/ Reuters)




The last I've read, these signing statements now number a thousand or more.


Hurry, January 20, 2009.

:bounce::woohoo::bounce:

K & R !!!

:kick:

wouldn't that be nice to see.

Fitzgerald or Edwards.....ooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh

I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned Fitzgerald. I think he would do an amazing job.

behind his back...he is methodical and aggressive...and I love it..

People might view it as Obama getting Fitzgerald out of Illinois to protect the crowd back there.

They might even see it as an effort to protect Rezko -- while not personally trying the case, Fitzgerald is in charge of the people who are -- even though the Rezko case has already gone to jury.

On the other hand, aside from Rezko himself, every single person accused of criminal activity in the Rezko case has been a Republican. Rezko himself accused Karl Rove of attempting to tamper with the prosecution. So don't expect the GOP to make too much noise about anything Rezko related.

and I'd bet the farm on that.

The exorcism is a good idea too. Get in some good "Aura cleansers" while he's at it. The White House has been a little black the past 8 years.

I have heard him say this before. This is part of what sold me on Obama.

But I have my fingers crossed that this statement will yield some positive change in the way our Constitution is followed.I'd love to see:

Patriot Act...OUT
Protect America Act...OUT
Real ID Act.....OUT

There is more...a lot more...but this would be a good start.

I'd also like to see the TSA scrapped,along with the No-Fly list.

Like I said,this is only a beginning....but if it comes to pass,Obama will immediately become my favorite Pres.



I'd love to see the DEA get their funding reduced by 80-85% as well.(I realize it's only a "pipe"dream,but I'd love to see all those unemployed DEA agents with lemonaide stands on the US/Mexico border).I should think they would do well selling cold drinks to all the "illegal tourists".

The idea that a president would voluntarily relinquish power and control, it just seems unlikely. It would be nice, though.

I like your idea of scrapping some agencies.

The OP is about executive orders repealed. The President can repeal any executive order s/he wants on a whim.

Repealing laws requires Congressional action. Though a President can certainly use the bully pulpit to push for those repeals.

I would of course argue that Bush orders that violate the Constitution are void at their inception.

isnt Zbigniew Brzezinski Obamas right hand man ?

“Rebuilding America’s Defenses,” the Project for a New American Century’s 2000 report, and “The Grand Chessboard,” a book published a few years earlier by Trilateral Commission co-founder Zbigniew Brzezinski, both recommended a more robust and imperial US military presence in the oil basin of the Middle East and the Caspian region; and that both also suggested that American public support for this energy crusade would depend on public response to a new “Pearl Harbor,” is not “theory.” It’s fact.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_203.shtml

Obama was behind 9/11?

He has an entire team of national security advisors, and Brzezinski is not on that team.

Or maybe he just gives a fuck. Why is it unusual to care about the Constitution? It is our Constitution that is the basis of our nation, so should not every patriot hold it dear?

I have a suggestion for the Senator: how's about you issue a blanket revocation of everything the dumbass did, and then go back and reinstate the ones that pass muster? I think it should save a lot of work doing it that way. And I suppose it goes without saying that he will also undo the ones that are constitutional but also fucking wrong. It would seem silly if he didn't.

I would like to see Karl Rove frogmarched to prison though. I can dream, can't I?

I will gladly cast my vote for him.

It will take constant pressure from the public to push back, which means that all those newly energized citizens have to STAY INVOLVED!

Restoration and redemption!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

is the kind of thing I've been waiting to hear!

However, I fear for his life. If elected Obama must gut the Secret Service immediately. The SS is where the greatest threat could be quelled. Believe me, these huge corporate interests won't rest without attempting to end Obama's life. They already have their inside man ready to do the job. Bet on it. It is no coincidence that progressives are assassinated in this country.

Although I am positively giddy over this newest revelation by the man I so strongly want to be POTUS, I feel a need to offer up this potential snag. Are there any doubts that when it comes to reasons for impeachment, Washington DC is a target rich environment? So WHY did Madam Speaker remove impeachment from the table when it was so easy to start impeachment proceedings for so many many easy to see reasons? May I suggest the real reason impeachment was removed was because she knew that a great many Dems could/would be implicated. Did the bush crime family know this when it came to torture-gate, where they claimed, "The democrats knew what was going on too."??? Have too many within our Democratic Leadership been set up for a big fall should the rats within the republican Party get what they so richly deserve?

Will President Obama find himself facing the same thing as Nancy Pelosi did when she took office? Will he too be faced with the conundrum that by investigating and impeaching the crooks as our Constitution suggests, there will be damage done to important Democrats as well as the crooks in the bush administration? I am willing to accept the downfall of some of our Democratic leadership if they are guilty of wrongdoings, I can be forgiving too if all their crimes were were in 'being aware of' as opposed to the 'partaking in' of those crimes.

Unlike the supporters of the republican party, I want the crooks in our government brought to justice, ALL OF THEM. If some of those crooks have a 'D' next to their name then that 'D' gives them no free pass in my book! That is my opinion given what little I can suspect but what will President Obama do when all the facts are revealed to him? That, my fellow DUers, may be the fly in the ointment. I can only encourage Barrack Obama to be strong, to do what is right by our Constitution, to do what is right for America.

The true test of Senator Obama's willingness to effect a meaningful change of course for this country is the willingness to bring all of the corruption to light. Whether it's Republican or Democrat makes no difference. Anything less makes him no better than his predecessor. I second your last sentence: "I can only encourage Barrack Obama to be strong, to do what is right by our Constitution, to do what is right for America."

I admit I've been an Edwards supporter since before the 2004 election, so when he pulled out of the race I was heartbroken.

I began to take a closer look at Obama, because I knew there was NO way I could ever vote for Hillary Clinton.

Not long after I really started to pay attention to him, he made a comment similar to the one in the OP, either in one of the debates or during a stump speech.

Immediately, my mind was made up. It was literally the ONE issue I was waiting for any of them to address. I don't recall even hearing John Edwards bring up the subject at any point.

Thats when I realized that Obama really did 'get it'. He really had been paying attention to what had been happening to this country, in the way I wanted to hear from one of the candidates.

Sounds cliche, but I do believe in this man. Whats more, I believe that if we don't elect a president who makes restoring the constitution a top priority, we are well and truly sunk.

We might just be able to recover from a Bush presidency IF the very next president honestly tries to undo all the damage thats been done to our constitution.

Thats what my hope is about.

-chef-

Go Obama!

are trying to keep him out at all costs but, this is what needs to be done for our country. A cleansing if you will.

And, why some of us are fighting so hard for the gift that has come along to help us with this.

K and R

If so, Wexler for AG! Pretty much every single thing the Bush Crime Family has done to the Constitution would be overturned. :)

WWHD (what would Hillary do?) Or did she say anything?

GO-OBAMA!

I'll see if we can scrape together a little more. We have a Tzedakah (charity) box that we've been saving up for Greenpeace, but I think I'll send it his way instead! GOBAMA :bounce:

:kick:

We need a president that respects the constitution... in law and feeling. I am sick of Bush and Cronies and Enablers running our country (into the ground). GOBAMA!

PS: My wife as at the rally. :applause:

Finally, someone is willing to move our nation forward, away from the Bush Regime!

feeling good about our country again when i hear things like this,
feeling we can overcome the 8 years of self-serving corporate fascist rule.

GOBAMA!
:applause:

... to democrats (small "d"). :D

I was curious what shitty comments the true-blue Hillbot's could possibly pull out of their asses over this one. But then I decided I really don't give a shit about their pettiness anymore. Obama will be the president, and our civil liberties will be restored at last.

Or I can just give you a summary here:

indimuse went off on a MI/FL tangent

Auntie Bush said this is a good thing and "about time he did something more than hope". She apparently missed the first hundred times Obama has made similar promises.

Twist_U_Up trotted out the oft-rebuked Zbigniew Brzezinski lie.


So there are only three. And only two of those are batshit crazy. We can applaud Auntie Bush for being sane, if snarky.


On edit, I see one low-count troll, BREMPRO, tossing out a "Barry Obama" but otherwise posting only positives in an obvious attempt to get its post count up to establish cred for its future attacks on Obama in the GE. It is trying to be stealthy, but apparently can not fully control itself.

True patriots don't need an "act".

Was his vote to extend the Patriot Act. It still sticks in my craw. Why do you think he would abolish it after voting for it? Why do you think he wants to abolish it, he supported it?
I sure hope he means what he said. But he thinks the Patriot Act is constitutional and that gives me major qualms. Perhaps he now regrets that vote? I just hope I don't wind up regretting my vote for him. Energy Bill and Patriot Act votes give me pause. But I hope for the best.

Mr. Obama, I must ask you two questions:

1) As you are and have been a member of the United States Senate for the last four years, I would have expected you would have evaluated any legislation during that time period to insure you were helping to pass only laws which are constitutional. Do you, therefore, only intend to review laws from before you were a member of the Senate for Constitutionality or are those laws enacted since you took office also planned for review? If the former, please explain why you failed to take the time while you were in the Senate to review what your predecessors had done. If the latter, please explain why you were lax in carrying out your duties as a US Senator?

2) Since you have indicated it is your intention, if elected, to meet with your Attorney General to review existing legislation and overturn that which you consider unconstitutional, I must ask you to please identify precisely what power granted by the Constitution to the office of the Presidency allows such a unilateral action on your behalf? Do you believe that you are not personally subject to the US Constitution? The Separation of Powers given by that historic and monumental document does not allow the President to subsume the functions of the courts and the judiciary.

- Posted by kdurham68

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Clearly this poster doesn't have a clue about Executive Orders - which pretty much bypass what the senate does

I pray it is not just a campaign promise, but if anyone can/will do it, it's Obama.