First names for $400, Alex: Barack, related to hebrew Baruch, means this...

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(I knew that one!)

Is he a terrorist? No.

The two words are not related. In fact, a blessing is a feminine noun ... not sure you want to follow this name thing too far.

And unfortunately for you, yes, they are (Barack, in Swahili, means 'blessed (by god)', one who is blessed, etc, and is an Arabic loanword and ultimately comes from the same Semitic root as Hebrew Baruch).

have Swahili, but don't relate it to my first language. Unfortunately for you, I'm correct.

but you're completely wrong. Swahili originated as a trade language and has many loan-words of Arabic and ultimately Semitic origin. And 'Barack' is one of them. You can deny this if you wish to, but it doesn't make you right.

None that I know of. But the boy I married and I spent quality time on this subject ... maybe your yeshiva education was superior to ours. But from what you've cited so far, I doubt it.

and therefore have no standing to speak on the subject. Whether you studied Aramaic, or what your fist language may have been, is completely immaterial to the question of whether there are many Arabic loanwords in the Swahili language and whether those loanwords are cognates of words in other Semitic languages. And Swahili 'Barak' or 'Barack' is a loanword from Arabic, cognate with Arabic 'barakha, meaning 'blessing', cognate with Hebrew 'Baruch', and ultimately deriving from Semitic triconsonantal b-r-k. You very obviously have no idea what you are talking about in this instance.

Swahili) friend they say:

The Egyptian friend: The word is Barakah (Not Barakha) (B-R-K-H (4 letters))(With punctuations it becomes Ba-Ra-Ka-H) from the root (BRK). Means blessings by God.

The Tanzanian friend: Swahili is a language made up of many other language and greatly influenced by Arabic because of trade, we (talking about his culture/language) usually remove the last vowels (like the H) or add a vowel specifically the (Y) vowel at the end of the words we import from other languages. Barak is from the Arabic word Barakah.

You need a chof for baruch, not a kof. Here, this might help you

http://www.cartoonhebrew.com/index.php?step=chaf-sofit

But the words share common Semitic roots. Your argument is prescriptive, not descriptive; it's like arguing that German 'wissen' can't possibly be related to Latin 'vedere'or Czech 'vim', when they share a common Indo-European root and are cognates. The argument you are making is linguistically nonsensical, and makes you look ignorant.

argumentative for the sake of it. But it was fun remembering good times w/the boy I married ... we enjoy intellectual pursuits.

My husband is sitting right HERE. This isn't fair.

first language alone, if you have any decency. Do you?

How odd.

that doesn't exist. It's insulting to those of us who can read and speak it. You may not care, but it's simply good manners to respect a language you don't happen to know.

Baruch:

Also related to "berakhah" or bracha (Hebrew: ברכה; plural ברכות, berakhot), which is a blessing. See also: Baraka and Barakah.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch

When you’re wrong stop digging.

Are you going to deny that Arabic and Hebrew are related languages belonging to the Afro-Semitic language family? Are you going to deny that as related languages within the same language family they share many words with derive from a common proto-Semitic root? Are you going to deny that it is linguistically sound to deduce from the presence of the Arabic loan-word 'Baraka' from Arabic 'Barakah' cognate with Hebrew 'Baruch' that Swahili 'Baraka' is in fact related to and derives ultimately from the same origin as 'Baruch'? If you are going to deny these things, why are you going to deny them? Do you not realise that your denial makes you look foolish? And that your whingeing about 'leave my first language out of it' makes you look even more so?

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004196.html

Here, enjoy arguing w/yourself.

That confirms what I've been saying, and that author's original post on this (referenced in your link) says the following:

your post? Got me hot and bothered.

Whew. Linguistics dirty talk. Seriously. Say "bilabial sounds." I may faint.

:D

Rowr.

Go read about swahili.

is so much tempest in a teapot.

Most of it is meaningless when compared to the problems that face this nation.....


I'm just sayin'

for political purposes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=5817567&mesg_id=5817608

How do you find time to kiss your own ass?

with lots of teachers. Kissing ass? Nope, I like to think they appreciated my quest.

curriculum so I took computer science, physics and math classes. Wound up taking the BAs in economics and poli sci anyway, but already had the master's lined up, so it didn't matter - spent my final year consulting at the lab for logic based systems on campus. Made unix workstations sing ...

But I'm using all those equations now for informations systems. Go figure, I say.

So I'm sure we can have a great conversation. What IT systems you currently working on?! What languages are you using?

I'll be doing Oracle again, which is my comfort level. The site integrates everyone else's best ideas for social networking and the plan won Stern biz school's competition. The beta launch went smoothly, so we're arranging our first round of venture capital.

I'm still impressed every time I see impedance show its effects ... and to think, when I soldered together my ZX-80 I had no idea why diodes had to go in the right way! I can laugh now, but I sooooooo embarrased.

20 - 30 million requests daily.


You last paragraph doesn't make any sense BTW. Are you talking about the Sinclair?! What does impedance has to do anything with the rest of the paragraph??!! What impedance effects that impressed you?!

see
we can all come together peacefully
wow

And impedance was a mystery to me ... but the equations are crystal clear. I was just expressing my delight finding someone who understands frequency response curves. Nope, not connected to anything else ... just happy to share.

Classic Fredda!!! :rofl:

I'm upgrading myself to Jedi Knight. ;)

I'm bookmarking it for future encounters with that know-nothing blabbermouth.

Shows what can happen when you talk out of your ass to people who actually know something. OOOOOppppps!

:rofl:

PB

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the Jewish name Baruch? If you're going to claim superior knowledge, why didn't you post what Baruch means? Funny in a pray it means 'blessed'.....no?

Barak is mentioned in the book of Judges (4th chapter I believe). He is the man who led the troops of Israel under the only female leader the Jews ever had, Deborah. When it was time for him to go into battle he asked for Deborah to go with him, and because of that it was said that he would have to share the glory of winning the battle with a woman. And he did- the leader of the enemy (I think his name was Cisera or maybe it was Sisera) ended up being killed in a very gruesome way by a woman who tricked him into trusting him. Other than that he was considered a brave military hero.

So... there ya go... more than you ever wanted to know about the name "Barak." But hey, I've always thought this story would come in handy if anyone ever started complaining about his "African" names;)

Here is a passage from Judges chapter 4, verses 6-10

She summoned Barak son of Abinoam from Kedesh in Naphtali and said to him, "Hasn't the LORD, the God of Israel, commanded : 'Go, deploy on Mount Tabor, and take with you 10,000 men from the Naphtalites and Zebulunites? Then I will lure Sisera commander of Jabin's forces, his chariots, and his army at the Wadi Kishon against you, and I will hand him over to you. ' "

Barak said to her, "If you will go with me, I will go. But if you will not go with me, I will not go."

"I will go with you," she said, "but you will receive no honor on the road you are about to take, because the LORD will sell Sisera into a woman's hand." So Deborah got up and went with Barak to Kedesh. Barak summoned Zebulun and Naphtali to Kedesh; 10,000 men followed him, and Deborah also went with him.

There is more mention of him in the rest of the chapter, and into the beginning of chapter 5 as well:) I don't see how you can say "Barak" is not clearly a specific individual's name...

same as the soft sound in Baruch. Different letters, different words. Besides, ones a noun and the other a verb. It you make the verb's object a noun, which you can do, the blessing, or bracha, is feminine.

I actually wasn't addressing whether Baruch and Barak were related. I was just sharing what was- in my own mind at least- an interesting tidbit of info about the name Barak. I have heard that his "foreign" or "African" names bother some people and it seemed interesting to me that the name was found in the Bible. That's all...

Other than that, I defer to your superior linguistic knowledge.

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004196.html

If you really want to get into the details

are at best very weak at.

Is this not evident to you? ('barak' in Arabic ALSO means 'thunder', but it comes from a different root than the word 'barakah', 'blessing', from which Swahili 'barak(a) is derived. Give up. You look ridiculous.

HELL no to Hillary on this ticket!! :scared:

the handsome blessed one

a Hungarian palinka brandy, barack is the Hungarian word for peach. So he's a peach.

In French the word baraque (pronounced barack - the letter K isn't really used in French) means hut. lol

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PB

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