"MI, FL delegates should be counted" Help out here please...

The OP: http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/34110106/m/9511024531 is this BS or legitimate?

DNC 2008 conventions Rule 11A “Delegate Selection Rule” basically dictated when various states could hold their primaries---As we know, MI and FL broke these rules—BUT—So did Iowa, NH, and South Carolina
Obviously none of those states were stripped of their delegates
All states should have been punished under Rule 20.c.1.a—and all delegates AND super delegates in those states would be reduced by 50%.

However, under Rule 20.c.5 and 20.c.6, the DNC Rules & Bylaws Cttee has the authority to “impose sanctions the committee deems appropriate”
Which they exercised in FL and MI by stripping them of all their delegates; and in IA, NH and SC by stripping none of them.

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5465

Now, to me, this seems very strange, indeed. Since there were clear consequences spelled out already (50% loss)--it seems strange that ALL the delegates were lost in 2 states HRC won (MI & FL) and NONE of the delegates were lost in 2 states Obama won (IA, SC)
The delegates were counted in one state HRC won (NH)—however there was no statistical difference/advantage in NH to either candidate since the margin of victory was so small. (Clinton: 39%; Obama 37%--both received 12 delegates)

However, the margin of victory in FL and MI were much greater:
Florida
Clinton: 50% 106 delegates
Obama: 33% 67 delegates

Michigan:
Clinton: 55% 86 delegates
Obama/uncommitted: 40% 62 delegates

Florida is perfectly straightforward; both were on the ballot, neither campaigned (although Obama ran TV ads)
“The state ran afoul of the committee’s new primary rules when it decided to adhere to a new state law that moved the primary to Jan. 29, in violation of the DNC rule preventing unapproved states from holding a nominating contest before Feb. 5. The rules committee officially found the delegate selection plan Florida submitted to be in noncompliance Saturday when it adopted Dawson's resolution.
Florida party representatives argued unsuccessfully that they should be given an exemption and not be punished because they had taken “provable, positive steps” to obey the rule, but they were unsuccessful because of the actions of a Republican controlled legislature and a Republican governor.“We’re asking for mercy, not judgment,” Florida DNC member Jon Ausman told the committee.”
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/dnc-tells-florida-dems...plan-2007-08-25.html

So who is Ralph Dawson that brought the resolution not to seat the FL delegation? Mr. Dawson is an uncommitted delegate from NY (rare in Hillaryland) and Howard Dean’s former college roommate. He has given $1250 to Obama; $450 to Clinton. He is on both the Rules Cttee and the Credentials Cttee (critical to deciding who gets seated at the convention). As many of you know, Obama shill Donna Brazile was also named to this cttee as well.
http://www.observer.com/2008/patient-uncommitted-superd...ew-york-ralph-dawson
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/13/nyregion/13about.html?_r=1&fta=y&oref=slogin

In, Michigan as John Fout points out in “The Street” 4/1/08 (http://www.thestreet.com/story/10410164/1/electability-is-name-of-the-game.html) Obama chose to remove his name from the ballot as part of his campaign's strategy to focus resources on South Carolina--Clinton was leading by double digits in both states. Although Obama and Edwards removed their names from the ballot, it's not true that Clinton’s was the only name on the ballot; Kucinich, Dodd and Gravel were also listed.

queen hilly will not get her absurd demands met. tough shit indeed. And watch for exploding heads on 5/31.

Its an insult to Michigan voters to have their names removed. She just said she would not campaign there. Obama should have and could have followed that same wise advice. We did our part. We wrote Sen. Levin, U.S. Rep. Dingell and Committeewoman Dingell thanking them for challenging the supreme nature of New Hampshire.

"It's clear, this election they're having is not going to count for anything"

Agreed, it is not the fault of the Democrats who voted, but the result - because of the voter suppression issues - cannot and must not count.

Its not about Hillary. ITs about New Hampshire. McCain is ahead by a couple points in Michigan come November. Keep it up.

As they shouldn't be.
Oh, and the Florida DNC did NOT take provable, positive steps. MadFloridian has proven that time and time again.

It helps to know the facts before posting.

And the FL Democratic Party was given ample time (and promised assistance) to work out an acceptable plan. The Party declined to do so.

Are you referring to me? Because I posted this as a question: is it or isn't it bullshit?