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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:21 AM
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HILLARY, banana banana words words devil bunnies and presumptive nominee status
Edited on Thu May-29-08 08:48 AM by Boz
EDITED TITLE SEXINESS: A question about presumptive nominee status and the convention

Alright, I believe Obama is going to make the required number by what ever metric it becomes, with or with out FL and MI what ever it takes he will wrap up the number for presumptive nominee.

Hillary Clinton has said she intends to go to the convention even after the presumptive nominee number is reached and intends to continue until their is a nominee which is not until the delegates cast at the convention.

So thats the situation, we pretty much know thats going to happen, now comes the question.

What stops her from continuing to run a campaign for those months publicly saying dont vote for Obama the presumptive nominee?

Is there any sanction, to put her in the box, since she will be fundamentally running a campaign against the democratic party from within the democratic party?

Is there a sore loser clause or a similar clause that stripped Lieberman and so on?

What protects the Party from a rougue party member with the intent of harming the parties chances in the General or at the very least that is actively subverting the parties success for personal gain and thus no longer representing the parties interest?

Is there anything like a censure or withdrawl of sponsorship?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:24 AM
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1. She could be stripped of her Senate committees and tossed from the Dem caucus
If she wants to play that kind of hardball they can respond.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:55 AM
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2. In previous years
I don't think that campaigning all the way to the convention, even when someone else has a lock on the nomination, is unheard of. In years past, the crafting of the party platform was very important, and candidates who identified with certain planks in the platform would become advocates for those planks. Eugene McCarthy went all the way to the 1968 Democratic convention in Chicago as the candidate who wanted a plank in the platform to withdraw from Vietnam immediately.

Other times, a candidate would stay in until the convention as a "favorite son" and throw his support one way or another after the convention started. With the trend to more and more primaries, the convention has become a fait accompli instead of what it used to be; an all out tussle between the party hierarchy to choose between one of three contenders. In years past, John Edwards would not have had to drop out so early, he would have gone to the convention with most of the Carolina delegates in a position to bargain for things that were important to him in the platform.

However this year, I think the plank most identified with Hillary is "I deserve to be nominated", and I can't think of a policy position that she has single-handedly supported against all others out there.
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Boz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:26 AM
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3. I would agree with her doing something along those lines, but her active stance is Obama cant win
And therefore her plank is not pro democratic party and her surrogates are actively driving her supporters to consider voting for McCain.

So something has to happen. If thats what she continues with.
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