God Bless Richard Nixon, George W, Bush, and Barack Obama

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God Bless our DRUG WAR WARRIORS!
One thing in common between Richard Nixon, Gerry Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George HW Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and our (soon to be) next President of the United States, H. Barack Obama - THEY ALL SUPPORT THE DRUG WAR!

So, on 1-20-09 we will get a new president. This president will be at least twice as competent as G.W.Bush. It won't matter if it is Obama, Clinton, or McCain, the President of the United States will be yet another pro drug war WARRIOR.

Sure we also have Barr, Nader, and McKinney running. But really only corporate approved candidates need to apply.

It sucks that Bill Clinton, G.W.Bush, and Obama all admit to getting away with using illegal drugs, but willingly jail people for doing the same thing that they did.

Oh well, Gobama! Your the lesser evil of the two and the choice of the lesser of two evil corporate political parties.

- Barack Obama, 2004

If you think he's actually going to campaign on the issue, I want what you're smoking.

good stuff...

(As a leftie liberal, I am fully aware that Obama will swing to the right in the general election. I am ready to have my heart broken, just like the BigDog or Spitzer did)

super majority. makes sense to me - go back to your bong.

Really.

But I thought Bigdog did that as well. Free trade, more drug arrests, welfare reform, private health coverage.

The idea that Obama will be able to contain the corporations is hard for me to swallow.
Of course he will be better then Clinton, better then McCain, and better then Bush.

I'm not gonna do anything to hurt Obama's chances. Really.

This article in Rolling Stone gives a really good history of the past two decades of the Drug War.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17438347/how_america_lost_the_war_on_drugs

Clinton's first Drug Czar pushed hard for treatment over imprisonment. The Republicans in Congress stopped it from happening.

I remember Clinton administration put the most pot smokers in jail. More then Ray-gun. More then nixon

According to the article, his second Drug Czar was a firm believer in the "gateway theory".

love your sig... I remember that episode:toast:

Most Democrats, IMO, don't really believe in the drug war. But they're simply too afraid to stand up to it and be called "soft on crime" by the Republicans.

voted/donated to obama too

A spokesman for Obama’s campaign blamed confusion over the meaning of decriminalization for the inconsistencies, and said that while Obama does not support decriminalization, "we are sending far too many first-time, nonviolent drug users to prison for very long periods of time, and that we should rethink those laws."

Sounds like it's just a quibble over a word. He still believes that the WOD is a massive failure. He's the first Democratic nominee in history to express this view, and I have no doubt he'll work with lawmakers in Congress to find a solution.

Kucinich, McKinney, Hinchey, H. Pat Moynihan...

to label Obama as the likes of Nixon and Bush are a failure.

How does this help anything?

The two corporate parties are pretty tied to the hip.
Barr, Nader, and McKinney will all be on the right side of this issue. The GOP+DLC (beer, tobacco, dow chemical financed) will oppose it.

No need to bring Hillary in to this as she will be veep at best.

I think small possession of marijuana should be legalized... I don't think other drugs should be legalized...

:toast:

I don't think any first time offender should be thrown in the hoosegow but I don't think it's wise to remove the social stigma from the use of most street drugs... Pot can be relatively benign in moderation but I don't think society needs to send the message that using ectsacy, meth, or crack, etctera is ok...

Pot is far less harmful than alcohol.

That was my point...

As I said I do believe pot is relatively benign...

Someone caught smoking pot shouldn't have to get treatment any more than someone drinking a couple of beers.

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Treatment for first time offenders is a good start but rehab doesn't always work the first time. Most people have to try god knows how many times to quit smoking.

Marijuana should be legalized, simple possession of other drugs should not involve prison time.

:crazy:

Perhaps Paul can be his veep///

and I am a big NORML supporter. What are we supposed to do, vote for the anti-government, racist Ron Paul for this one reason only? Maybe we will slowly open the door of drug law review through research into medical marijuana, but aside from that, no reasonable politician in high office will advocate for drug law reform. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

In a swing state, please vote Obama.
In a blue or red state, vote your heart.
I would like to see the NYS GOP become more libertarian - perhaps a vote for Bob Barr might tip NYS GOP to be a bit more freedom loving.
I would like to see the Texas Dems become more green. Perhaps a nader or Mckinney vote down there would be for the best.

But please vote Democratic. Please.

Ps- Is Senator Bernie Sanders really pro-drug war?

Pot - legalize it.

Heroin/Cocaine/most other drugs - Decriminalize it. Put addicts in rehab, not jail.

Meth - Addicts into rehab, Euthanize anyone who sells that shit. Yes I'm serious. I have Zero tolerance for the continued existence of this poison.

Pharmacuticals - Even more criminal than the meth dealers, because their shit is usually just as toxic, AND they advertise. First step... all drug ads off TV. Reform the FDA into a body which actually regulates. If a drug isn't safe, pull it off the market.

Take the tax money to fund the rehab programs.. and watch the Mexican Drug cartels & Organized Crime families lose power immidiately.

Will this ever happen? Probably not in my lifetime. Would it decrease drug use? Not initially - but eventually - similar to cigarettes.

Would people still try to illegally sell drugs? Yes, but then they go to prison for tax evasion - and we punish the dealers who don't go through legal channels instead of the addicts.

Like I said - probably not in my lifetime, and i'm only 30. I've also never tried drugs, and have only smoked 1 cigarette once.. so what do I know?

Also my degree is in psych, and both my psych and criminal justice classes agreed that rehab is the best way to go. Works pretty damn well in other countries, AND it's cheaper, AND you don't get as many people going from drug use to property crime as you do with those who mix with criminals in jail and in the pursuit of their drugs.

Obama seems to be the most liberal candidate on the drug issue. He's even spoken out about medical marijuana use just recently. Use the google, I'm feeling lazy.

Running a campaign on legalizing drug use is a surefire way to lose, so I'm glad he's not out there raging about it.

True LEADERS ... Democratic Leaders listen to their advisors.

It's wrong to place generalizations about Obama, because unlike HRC, he's no micro-manager. :shrug:

:-(

I bet mccain can't even define habeas corpus