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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:37 PM
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Carville: Obama will win General Election
In Contrast With Core Hillary Message, Carville Says He Thinks Obama "Will" Win General Election
By Greg Sargent - May 29, 2008, 5:21PM

In a quick phone interview with me just now, prominent Hillary supporter James Carville diverged from the Hillary campaign message on several key "electability" questions, saying that he thinks Obama "will" win the general election.

Carville, surprisingly, also seemed to downplay Obama's problems with non-college whites -- a cornerstone of Hillary's electability claim -- saying that if Obama gets the same level of non-college whites that John Kerry did in 2004, he "will" win the general.

Asked if he thought Obama would beat McCain, Carville said: "I think he will. I think Democrats will win in November...There's a crushing desire for change in this country. No one has seen a party or brand held in such low esteem" than the Republicans.

Carville's repeated suggestions that Obama "will" beat McCain contrast with the core Hillary message -- repeated frequently by Hillary advisers -- that Obama merely "can" win a general election, while Hillary "will" win it. Carville's comments also suggest that with the fall contest looming, it's becoming tougher for prominent Hillary backers to sustain any argument that doesn't show full confidence in Obama's chances against McCain.

Carville stressed that he thought Hillary was a better bet against McCain, but reiterated his confidence in Obama. "Hillary would be a stronger candidate, but I think he'll win this thing," Carville said.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/carville_on_obama_i_think_he_w.php
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:38 PM
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1. Did Hillary bounce another check?
:rofl:
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:35 PM
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10. LOL!!!
Maybe her check to Kool-Aid bounced and they cut off the Clintonistas' supply.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:48 PM
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13. Nominated!
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:38 PM
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2. Backpedaling, but who cares.
Let him and his lovely bride find the obscurity they so richly deserve.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:39 PM
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3. Okay, James
I guess you wore your sanity cap today.

But what about tomorrow?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:39 PM
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4. JUDAS!
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PoliticalAmazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:46 PM
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5. Oh, look. Mary Matlin loaned his balls back to him so he could speak. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:48 PM
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6. Carville's smart enough to know that this deal is pretty much settled.
Obama's going to be the nominee, and hence, is the future of the Democratic Party.
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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:48 PM
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7. When Carville jumps off the ship you know she's sinking
nt
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 06:49 PM
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8. Is the Precioussss giving up the rrrring?
:D




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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:42 PM
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12. Fock - Now you're killing ME.....!!!
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:03 PM
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9. well at least he is capable of dealing with reality
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 07:36 PM
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11. Then why doesn't he shut the fuck up
and stop trying to peddle Hillary as the shit?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:53 PM
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14. Oh-oh.
Hey, you guys under the bus, make a space!
INCOMING!
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 08:55 PM
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15. No comments from Hillary supporters? how surprising....
....
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:01 PM
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16. "...likely larger turnout among young voters, African Americans..."
That's what I'm most excited about, the huge numbers of newly registered Democratic voters, as well as formerly apathetic Dem voters who are now energized.

It subverts the old paradigm of trying to win 51 percent of the 50 percent turnout.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:01 PM
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17. Judas!!!!!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:03 PM
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18. Carville out to salvage his credibility
Actually, he's been acknowledging this reality for some time, but he didn't want to show public disloyalty.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:06 PM
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19. "Bones, what is it?" "He's dead, Jim." "Spock?" "Curious, Captain. It seems to know how to morph . .
into other life forms when threatened with inevitable harm or capture."

"We've got to find where it went. Search the bridge, engineering, and the transporter room."

"But, what about the body, Jim?"

"Oh, that. Jettison it out of one of the space compost portals. And do it fast, Bones. That thing stinks like a week old dead goat."

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:09 PM
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20. Carville speaks wisdom for once.
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papapi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:21 PM
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21. He still looks like Nosferatu.
...suckin' up, jimmy boy, now that the writing is on the wall?
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genna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:21 PM
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22. Carville STILL MUST ANSWER FOR Santino-- scratch that Richardson
I know Carville can become OVER EXCITED. He pissed me off when he went after Richardson like he was some new style slave and called him Judas.

Then he said the thing about Hillary having bigger balls (or something to that effect) than Obama.

I kept thinking when a woman attacks a man because he is a man...why is this not sexist treatment. Why are women allowed to talking about a man not being a REAL MAN and men can't call women on being REAL WOMEN?


At some point, the kettle has to meet the pot. I understand the desire is for women to attack power players (which happen to be men in a lot of cases and situations) but here Obama came out of no where with very little institutional support and said hey guys vote for me. The power analysis would have had to go with the Clintons, not Obama.


Carville has to answer for Richardson.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-29-08 09:24 PM
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23. The road to recovery is long
but at least he has taken the first step.
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