WHO. THE. HELL. CARES??!?!

Honestly, another preacher "scandal?"

Is this all they've got to bring Obama down?

Who honestly think this makes a damn bit of difference with Obama himself and why is anyone trying to hold Obama accountable for it?

Guilt by association politics is the most retarded strategy I've ever seen.

.....that's why they're so orgasmic everytime a 'man of God' opens his mouth and crap comes out......

They have clearly never been in a black (or other minority) church and understand that the delivery and the theology differ greatly from the stiff, snore-inducing delivery of a traditional white Methodist church (which is what I grew up going to and perhaps contributes greatly to my staunch Atheism now). And rather than attempt to understand said philosophy or let their ignorance guide what should be basically a polite non-opinion, they're throwing tantrums and pointing fingers over something they simply lack of the cultural perspective and context to comprehend. It's like people walking into a Mosque and saying that the Muslims are wrong to be kneeling on the floor so much.

It messes with their reality construct too much.

:sarcasm:

Because it is dumb and flimsy.

It is not a "reason" to not vote for Obama; it is a rationalization.

There really hasn't been anything labeled as a 'gate' or a 'scandal' that I give two shits about during this whole primary season. To clarify: anything regarding Obama or Clinton.

One cannot control what people say. who you get endorsed by, or what your supporters may or may not do.

You CAN control things you say and things you do as a candidate. That's what I pay attention to. Obama and Clinton have each made their fair share of gaffes while campaigning, the problems arise when they don't acknowledge they made a mistake or misspoke, then the M$M will take it and run.

M$M is trying to give this thing more legs than a millipede. :eyes:

My favorite bullshit story that the M$M has been running with lately: the Dunkin Donuts / Rachel Ray scarf scandal :rofl:

And it's hard to tell what drives it more: corporate greed or the millions of sheep who tune/buy into it on a daily basis. Corporations are out to make money. They wouldn't be running with this kind of crap if it wasn't selling. Sigh. I need something to restore faith and good will in my fellow Americans.

Nothing to obsess about. :eyes:

I mean, Reverend Wright completely used them to his own advantage, the latest dude, whatever his name is, is probably doing the exact same thing. People with the motive to get their mugs on the nightly news know exactly what to say and how to say it.

This crap is so stupid and pointless. So some white priest gets a little fired up during a sermon and starts to think he's doing a stand-up act. And this affects Obama how exactly?

My god -- what passes for political discourse these days.

Was he there? And even if he was there, did he write the effing sermon? Gah... this is so stupid, shameful, and infuriating.

But what would he blab about for four hours a day if not for Wright? Seriously. The guy has no analysis whatsoever. Ayres, Wright, Michelle. Just make a loop, buddy, and play it over and over while you get yourself to the fat spa to lose some of that junk in your trunk.

There are some conservative pundits I do read and listen to on occasion. But Hannity is a joke. You're a great American? F you!

But they are out there and I try to listen in when I can. Fox News clowns definitely do not count.

I do read George Will. And I like Thomas Sowell for his economic analysis. I tend toward conservative economic analysis while I like my Dem social issues and safety nets.

I like thinkers. Hannity is not a thinker.

I'm a fiscal moderate, personally. Socially, I'm damn near anarchist. lol

I've never been able to understand why a country can't be a thriving free market AND still have social services and safety nets. Look at all the rich Dems out there -- they did it using the free market. And yet some on DU loathe the free market and insist on government running the show. I say LESS government intrusion and MORE free market.

I make no apologies for capitalism.

Although I am not a huge fan of Bill Clinton's of late, he did say one thing that I think is impossible to refute:

"There is nothing wrong with America that can't be fixed by what is right with America."

Thanks for the kind words.

When confronted with controversy; hands over eyes, fingers in ears, and thumb up the ass. Ignore the meanies til they go away.

Not your ridiculous snark.

to haunt Clinton supporters.

Hint, when the people drank the poisoned Kool-Aid, they were a relatively small fringe group of wackos who were greatly outnumbered by normal people. Given the minuscule numbers of petulant, whiny, deranged assholes who can't get over the fact that Clinton has lost, I think I know who's drinking the Kool-Aid here.

It's so hard to keep it all straight.

a field day with this. If you think this won't be brought up by McCain and his surrogates you are fooling yourself.

And if you're afraid of them bringing it up, then you need to grow a backbone. This "controversy" is ridiculous and is easy enough to rebut.

I'm more concerned about. lol

makes them look bad, not Obama

Mostly because I've been fascinated by the McClellan coverage, I've been checking on the standard bearer's websites regularly the past night and morning. Yahoo, Washington Times, Chicago Tribune, etc. Fox, of course, set the tone. It's really amazing how much power they have. No one was running this, they beat it into the ground, and ta-da, it's now legitimate.

The McClellan story has gotten pushed out, I can't even find it on some sites, and then all morning this story and the crane fall started taking front and center. Why? One reason is it's got compelling video. Substance-wise it's a non-story, but people click on things with video. That and they are trying anything to take him down.

But really, he needs to tell any priest about to support him, to just cool it for a while. Don't do anything that's going to scare White America. When he's in, you can do whatever you like.

The Father MADE FUN OF, MOCKED Hillary? OH.MY.GOD! I mean, it's okay when Hillary herself mocks Obama and his supporters with her "celestial chiors" comment, but NOT okay when someone who's not even connected with Obama mocks Hillary of Arc, right? Is that the general opinion of the 'bots today? Well, get in your poutrage and faux "scandals" while you can kiddies because it's over for the Goddess of Piece real soon.

You must have been elsewhere, because it was ALL the fauxrage here.

Personally, as a Hillary supporter, I cringed when she said that. Obots don't cringe over anything associated with their candidate.

Bake

In Realityville, we like to hold politicians accountable for the words that come out of their own mouths.

And I guess I only have your word to go on that you did indeed "cringe" at Hillary's comment. Of course, you can PRETEND that you took the high road. I don't know and I don't care.

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Your screen name is apt.

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But I'll make sure to not hold my breath.

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Your words still read like tripe. Enjoy your stay.

until he was forced to resign... right?

It's absolutely absurd



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...guilt-by-association, smear tactics, character assassination, etc.

It has always been thus. ANYTHING to keep discussing the FACTS about the ISSUES. And of course the lamestream media plays along instead of formulating POINTY QUESTIONS about the issues and bombarding them with facts.

It's rediculous.

This is tired nonsense. I can't believe we have been reduced to evaluating the words of preachers to attack political candidates. It's NOISE! It's nonsense. It's boring me to tears.

Meanwhile, McCain doesn't have a clue how many troops we have in Iraq. Or maybe he just doesn't understand the conceptsof "greater than, less than" I think I learned that in first grade or something.

They can't touch Obama personally so its guilt by association.

It doesn't mean squat either. The only ones getting worked up over this garbage are low info voters and hard worKKKing white Hillbots.

McWars base IOW.

Obama will destroy Gramps in the GE. I can't wait!