"Clinton won't be happy until she sinks Obama" Dallas News/Blogs

A lot of people have respect for Hillary Clinton because they say she won't give up. Another way to look at that, though, is that she won't give up until she destroys her opponent. A lot of folks have asked, what does she want? Why is she still in this? Of course, asking that makes you a sexist participant in a vast left-wing/right-wing conspiracy, but I think the answer is that she wants to destroy her opponent. Her opponent is Obama, not John McCain.

How else to explain her shifting statements of her goals? She said in late 2007 that she would fight all the way through Super Tuesday! That went badly, so she vowed to fight for some solution to seat some Florida and Michigan delegates. Then she said she would fight through Texas and Ohio. Then Pennsylvania. Then West Virginia. None of these primaries provided her with real victory or even put it within reach. They just gave her "bounces." So she ignored states with caucuses (which she lost) and counted states that didn't count (which she won) and came up with the "popular vote" argument, which most people dismissed as not quite as important as winning most states, pledged delegates or super delegates. So she changed her tune again in recent weeks and vowed to fight for every vote to be counted (for her) in Michigan and Florida.

Now, even again, she changes her tune, saying that if tomorrow's Democratic Party convention rules committee doesn't count every vote in those states, she'll take this fight to an appeal and maybe even to the convention floor.

She's too smart to be delusional to the point of thinking that this is fair or even constructive -- although her comparisons of this situation to the freeing of slaves and the Zimbabwe elections does make one wonder if she is delusional. She knows she has lost the election by the current rules and by all measures, and nothing that happend this weekend or on Tuesday will change that. So I think it's fair to say that her goal now is to sink Obama. If she can sink him and take the nomination, great! But she knows that's not likely.

What is likely, though, is that all the primaries will end with her still fighting him, taking shots, tearing him down. And it's working. Look at what she has done to his poll numbers against McCain. The longer she stays in, the more she drags Obama down. One way or another, it seems, the goal is not for her to win, but for him to lose.

http://dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/05/clinton-wont-be.html

"...she drags Obama down..." Isn't Obama responsible for ANYTHING? If he loses in November, are you going to blame Clinton? You sure give Hillary a lot of credit.

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Isn't Clinton responsible for ANYTHING?

not according to you folks.

The only reason she is staying in with no hope of winning is to be willfully destructive. If she could admit that to herself, perhaps she could stop herself. It used to be amusing watching this, now it is pathetic. Despite what she and her supporters mistakenly believe. The numbers don't lie. Only Clintons do, in this situation of course.

the loss will be HIS fault, not Clinton's. She simply is not that powerful. Obama will win or lose on his own merits or lack thereof.

Or even much past the next week or two.

Obama is getting bombarded running against two candidates right now, and to do it much longer is no doubt a detriment to his chances in the fall.

...she is setting herself up to take the blame. And if she think's she's setting herself for 2012, she's got another think coming. She's destroyed her reputation with far too many democrats at this point.

the perception will be that Clinton was his downfall, and it doesn't matter whether it is true or not. That being the case, Clinton will never be the Democratic nominee for President. She may in fact become a pariah.

The only thing which would truly make HRC happy would be to somehow get even with Bill. In her mind, that is being a better president than he was. The world would have been a better place if she would simply have kicked him out the first time he screwed around on her, or given him that divorce he asked for when he was Governor of Arkansas.

... she can have NO other reason to be the albatross she is at this point if not to drag Obama down and cause him to lose.


YOUBETCHA Clinton WILL be blamed if Obama loses in November. And rightfully so.

Obama's election to win or lose? Do you think he is so perfect that his losing could only be the result of some evil force named Clinton? Give me a break. In fact, give Obama a break and believe in him enough to let this be his election.

Clinton is fighting against her own party, not just against Obama. The people have spoken, and she refuses to reconcile.

She can still do a lot more damage, and waste a whole lot more money, and time, that would be better spent defeating Republicans.

Right? What's wrong with this point of view?

I'll take that one.
Yes, they absolutely will, count on it.
It'll all be Hillary's fault.

He's infallible like the Pope, don't you know? If he loses in November it HAS to be thanks to Hillary and her spiteful supporters. They are all a bunch of uneducated racists. Why else won't they vote for the Great One???

Why do you think someone whose donors have all maxed out is even qualified to be in a general election?

look who's saying these things..wb

Found cameras and ink to attack other Dems, though.

But I think if she is viewed as "sinking" Obama in order to get the nomination, she'll be damned if she gets it and damned if she doesn't. If she gets it by those methods, she'll possibly, maybe probably, lost a great deal of the newer voters that Obama brought into the race. If she doesn't get the nomination, she'll be marginalized by the party for whatever she used to "sink" him with, particularly if he winds up losing the general.

It's great that she believes this as a Democrat running against a Republican, but when in an intra-squad contest, not so good. It's like sliding into second with your cleats up during spring training.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg2WucQDU-w

man-hater. if indeed O gets the nom, you may find that that strategy doesn't work very well in the GE. but nevermind.

How dare she stay in the race until everyone gets to vote? How dare she not make way for the Anointed One?

I guess the voters didn't get the memo because she won every state but two in March, April and May.

:shrug:

Answer this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6162200

...then talk to us about this "anointed one" crap.

lmao

If she continues to try to bloody Obama over a cause she's already lost and, by some stretch of the imagination, Obama doesn't win the general election, you can stick a fork in her -- forever.

And her career demise will be richly deserved.

but that's the rains fault. I had to go outside because a thunderstorm hit to bring the chairs in around the pool. Another weekend no pool

Jake3463 is very sad.

She's fighting to be president, not for the "shotgun" in vehicle hierarchy. I'm sure its a bit hard to back down from this. But, you can see signs of her campaign winding down now. It won't be long before she chooses to exit this race to the benefit of the party.

She has a hole in her psyche. There are people like that.

You can never fill it by getting more of the wrong thing.

For some people, they think more money will fill that hole. For some, more lovers. For some, I-told-you-so's.

But she will only be happy if something inside changes. And I haven't seen a lot of tendency toward introspection there yet.