Obama Fucking Destroys McCain On Iraq!!!

McCain is gonna be left cross-eyed and dizzy.

Did you see this thread? If not, this link is for you!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x6005693

Regards,

Sam

indeed


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With his absysmal ignorance and inability to go three days without saying something mind-numbingly stupid, he's sure to win! But Obama can get in some solid hits before he does. That's probably all we can hope for.

Isn't that what CNN will run with?

.. who pokes fun of Hillary, which is supposed to reflect badly on Obmama, who of course is black to begin with. But you already knew that! Only FOX News could package this is a "major" campaign issue at a time when Bushco is rapidly coming unhinged in front of the entire world.

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Good. Very, very good.

"straight talker" mccain.

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Well done.

The MSM may try to knock Scotty out of the news, but that brings it right back into focus. Smart.

And all true..it's too much! :bounce: :patriot: :kick: :party:

Take it to 'em, B. O.! :nuke:

Gobama!

get into a street fight with someone who learned his politics in Chicago. :evilgrin:

has it easier 'cause he gets to zing with facts and all the others have to make up shit as they go along.

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How people see this guy as a weak campaigner is way beyond my pay grade.

- as

Just this AM over on Smirkingchimp.com someone was pulling the "unvetted" argument. "Obama's unvetted and when the gop big guns come out in the real election, Obama will be pulverized. But Hillary can take 'em on!" That's the usual way it goes.

From what I can see, Obama has no problem coming back fast and hard....with facts. The Right Wing has been gearing up for Hillary since before 2004. You saw all the time "Will Hillary run in '08?" headlines way back then. They're ready for her. (And she can certainly defend herself well, no doubt about that.)But they are NOT ready for Obama. The GOP is gonna smear whomever they are running against. That's a given. But at least they might have to scramble a bit with Obama.

are making absolutely no sense and providing many opportunities for ready-made ads come the fall. From the HuffPost article on McSame's multiple gaffes:

"Reminded that troops in Iraq currently number 155,000, well above the pre-surge level of 130,000, McCain refused to acknowledge on Friday that he had misspoke."

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"And that was just the beginning. McCain's gaffe had already been exacerbated during a conference call earlier in the day, when aides to the Arizona Republican insisted that he had not misspoke, even while McCain surrogate Sen. Jon Kyl acknowledged on the same call that he had: "What he said was not entirely accurate. OK. So what?" (My comment: So what??? Are you freakin' kidding me?)

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The campaign aides also ridiculed reporters for even caring about the topic. "It is the essence of semantics," foreign policy adviser Randy Scheunemann said. "We are having this call about a verb tense and if you choose to write a story about Sen. McCain's use of a verb tense you need to hold Senator Obama to that exact same standard."

All of which, of course, simply piqued the interest of reporters. Michael Dobbs of the Washington Post pointed out that, contrary to the McCain campaign's tone, word choice does, in fact, matter. "If Bush had said 'the mission will be accomplished' as opposed to 'mission accomplished' -- those are two completely different things with completely different meanings."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/30/in-an-iraq-related-hole-m_n_104364.html


This is going to be so much fun to watch!

Where has Obama not been in this regards?

As for Randy Scheunemann it doesn't say much for McCain that he continues to use his services considering that he has been involved in losing campaigns.

Dole for President: Senior Adviser, 1996
McCain 2000 Presidential Campaign: Senior Defense and Foreign Policy Adviser

And part of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC)

Sounds like "Back to the Future - Part IV"

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/

information from the MSM, and the MSM are not telling the public about McCain's BS and his gaffes. They are telling the public what a straight-talking maverick he is and how much greater his credentials are than Obama's on national security. Most people in America do not have a clue tht Mccain's voting record is so right wing or that McCain has supported Bush's policies 100% in his Senate voting record. They think he is an independent "moderate," because that is what the MSM continue to call him.

speaking breathlessly of John McLame: "He's SUCH a MAAAVerick!"

Many people are not paying attention to the news especially in the republican party (too hard to take) so I think that if someone was asked that question they would pick the older military candidate. We are seeking out news and see McCain's gaffs. When the debates start between the two thats when everything will become very apparent!

that gave me a hard-on.

In fairness to him though, it's not as though the good lord saw fit to put a royal flush in his hand.

Because we have been FORCE FED
war proponents as candidates.

When we tossed Lieberman, the
tide began to turn.

GO OBAMA!!

N/T

Let me tell you I will be literally GLUED to the TV during the debates.

In fact, I'm sorta peeved that they're not happening sooner than they will be. I'm having serious withdrawal symptoms from blood and guts and general violence of Pro football.

I need me some Debate Smackdown...

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/05/30/1086713.aspx

At a press conference today in Milwaukee, McCain defended himself from Democratic accusations that he misspoke Thursday, when he incorrectly said that the US had "drawn down to pre-surge levels" in Iraq.

Asked in the media avail if he got his facts wrong, McCain replied by stating that US troops levels are down -- but said nothing of pre-surge levels. "We have drawn down three of the five brigades. They’re home. The marines are home. By the end of July, are back. That’s just facts, those are just facts. The surge, we have drawn down from the surge and we will complete that drawdown to the end -- at the end of July. That’s just a factual statement."

He added, "The important thing here is not that three of the five brigades are back, which they are and the others are coming back in July. It’s whether they would have been sent in the first place and succeeded or failed. Sen. Obama said that the effect would be the reverse. So, he has no fundamental understanding of the entire situation that warranted the surge, which led to the success."

But according to NBC's Jim Miklaszewski and Courtney Kube, the US has NOT drawn down to "pre-surge levels" in Iraq -- and they will NOT be at those levels even after the five surge brigades finish redeploying later this summer. The math is a bit fuzzy, but here are the facts: The US now has 155,000 troops on the ground in Iraq, and that is 17 brigade combat teams plus combat support forces. The baseline number of troops, now commonly called the "pre-surge level," was about 132,000 troops, or 15 brigade combat teams, plus the support forces (engineers, medics, cooks, etc).

Three of the five surge brigades are fully redeployed back to the US. The fourth has already begun to redeploy now (heading back to Fort Lewis). All five brigades will be back in the US by the end of July. When all five surge brigades are out of Iraq, the US will still have between 140,000 and 144,000 troops on the ground -- about 10,000 more than the "pre-surge level." Why? Most of the combat support and logistics troops will stay behind. So will the additional MPs, aviation forces, and other individual battalions sent over in bits and pieces as the surge forces arrived last year.

In a conference call sponsored by the campaign, Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl (R) also defended McCain's comment yesterday. "It's instructive that the Obama campaign, rather than deal with that real issue and Obama's lack of experience, is trying to nitpick the verb -- or I guess the tense of the verb -- about the surge troops being home. So that's the bottom line: The surge troops are all going to be home by the end of July."

"Take the worst possibility here, which is Sen. McCain misspoke. And that because of the specific words used, what he said was not entirely accurate, Ok, so what? What does that amount to? That's the worst possible scenario."
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"So what?" seems to be channeling Dick Cheney.

you provided the definitive answer to your colleagues when they bring up Obama mis-speaking about the name of that concentration camp his uncle helped liberate during WW2. "SO WHAT"!!!

Watch out McCain. A freight train is headed your way.

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and rec :)

That was a Knock Out Punch! :bounce:

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Thank you, Senator Obama, for getting on with the issues. I'm tired of all the REAL nitpicking of pastors and lapel pins while people are dying because of that damned war.

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GOBAMA!

I look forward to hearing Obama take McCain to task during the debates.

BOOYAH! :bounce:

There is no way that Hillary Clinton could deliver that blow!

He will be president and he will be the greatest of our time. K&R! :kick:

nice to see you are still a "person for change".

but not your own facts !!!!!!
Wonderful!!

deception - not straight talk

this is great !!

Barack the Vote!

He says exactly what I would say if I had his brains and speaking talent!

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are definitely going to be must-see TV. If McSame lasts that long without blowing a gasket, that is.

When was his last debate?

SW! Great work once again.

:toast:

"Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee."

;)

GOBAMA!

So much for Billary's claim that only Hillary can defeat John McCain in November. McCain couldn't even stand in the

ring with Obama, and he knows it, thus the attempt at a joint trip to Iraq, like they're good buddies who are somehow

in the same league. Obama called him on that too.

His "invitation" to Obama to tour Iraq is just so much unctious posturing. Hey McCain, next time do it without half a battalion covering your back.

I hope Obama pounds that cancerous sphincter into the pavement over this.

And don't let McCain beat you up in the next few rounds.

Keep your guard up always.

We know you're a good fighter so go in and prove it.

If you saw Johnny McSame chuckling at a press conference, it was classic. The guy is nuts.

Take that, old man!!!

just the right message out. Obama pwned mccain. This reminds me of the speech Obama gave in Oct 2002 when he stated he was against this particular war on Iraq because of political hacks like karl rove attempting to distract us..

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"What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression. That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics. Now let me be clear - I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity. He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars."

<conclusion snip>

"The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not -- we will not -- travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain."

http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php

Obama was freakin' prescient.

Wow. That, "my friends," is a counterpunch and a half. Nicely done, Sen. Obama - keep swinging!!

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What's a few thousand young citizens in harm's way? Get over it, leave those flag-draped caskets along and move along. There's nothing to see here.

K and R

when he let Hillary get away with all her devious tactics, have just learned that he was being civil with a fellow Democrat.

With McSame the gloves will be coming off, and we will see just what a fighter he is.

Take it to him Obama!!

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Slammed and dunked like a Dunkin'Donut in a cup of terrorist's iced coffee! :crazy:

THIS will be a most interesting week, won't it?

on record and their suicide rate is at record levels.

"The 115 confirmed suicides among active-duty soldiers and National Guard and Reserve troops who had been activated amounted to a rate of 18.8 per 100,000 troops — the highest since the Army began keeping records in 1980."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/30/us/30suicide.html?ref=us

McCain is not supporting the troops, he is sustaining Bush's failed policy exploiting our troops. Obama needs to keep calling McCain on this stuff and taking on Bush at every opportunity.

and someone we can be proud of !!! :yourock:

I'm sorry mis-spoke. It isn't hundreds of billions of dollars, it's trillions of dollars. Geez I can't believe I'm voting for this guy!

The nightmare we've been living through is almost over.

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McStain isn't going to stand a chance when this becomes a one-on-one.

:headbang: and he is just getting warmed up!

in a factual way.....I love it...

VOTE BLUE

ending the war and spending those resources to get our economy back on track.

obliterated! I can't wait for the presidential debates. Obama will wipe the floor with McCain's ass.