Why does Obama have to apologize for comments OTHERS make?

While Hillary and McCain do not have to answer for their own ill-advised remarks?

EDIT: Realistically though, because it makes that "guilt-by-association" tactic work SO well against him. They can't so easily use that tactic unless they claim he's responsible for everything everyone else says.

good friends with the pastor. People want to know if his beliefs are the same as the pastor/reverend/congregation.

Just like many people here judge Clinton by the company she keeps, people judge Obama by the company he keeps.

One kid hit another in day care, should he apologize for that, too? Get some common sense.

and these are Obama's "people".. so does he think the same way? Would he be laughing and having a good time listening to the guest pastor? Far stretch..

on edit: I thought it was rather amusing... too bad cameras are following avenue that they can just nail Obama with something...

He is a friend of the pastor who spoke. He has helped him politically and the Pastor was on his campaign.

His church: the one he went to for 20 years, apparently agrees and condones and CHEERS the offensive remarks.

That is the issue.

career.. on the south side of Chicago.. and he worked with the churches to get programs to the poor.. and these are the activist ministers of the south side coaltion..who else would he know?? the church is the heart of the community.. it is where you start from.. think Rev King.. these are the movers and shakers in the religious community...the thing that really makes me proud to be a supporter of Senator Obama.. is that he worked in this whirl wind of activism and emotion and that is what you need to move the system at that level.. it is not a tea room conversation..

the congregation became really quite fundie.... I stopped going as much, and then the awesome pastor died (rather unexpectedly), and the assitant pastor became the anoited one. He was a pompous asshole and as far as I know, still is. He officiated over the funeral service of a friend of mine.. he died young, had a baby, and was about to get married to woman who had his baby. The had the nerve to say, "we know Sean (friends name) is in heaven, he accepted Jesus Christ.. and while he lived a somewhat sinful life away from the church, we know God has forgiven and taken him in".. The entire church, packed to the hilt from adults to children (I was 19, he was 20 when he died) were shocked. We kept looking up at his girlfriend holding his child and weeped harder.

Now, I attended that church. I heard some roaring crappy pulpit pounding b.s. from that asshole. When the pastor let the assistant roar on a Sunday, I excused myself to use the bathroom.. At the age of 16, I couldn't stand that kind of hate. If someone were to say that man somehow represented my views, I would throw up. Fortunately, I don't live in VT any longer. So, that would be a far-fetched stretch to pull together. People attend the church they do for many reasons.. community status, fellowship, the singing might be awesome, the preacher might be thought provoking...

The one thing I am tired of is Church and God having anything to do with politics or govt.

I don't have to apologize for some of the people I've known all my life and call friends. Believe it or not, I have friends with whom I disagree strongly. Maybe I should take out a full page newspaper ad and call them all out on their wrongly held views.

You know, honestly, I don't know why people try to attribute one person's views to another's. It is silly. If Hillary's best buddy were a Scientologist would that make Hillary a Scientologist, or merely her buddy? Would those Scientology views rub off on Hillary and make her refuse a blood transfusion if she were bleeding to death?

There is such a double standard on DU.

Your point is a misstatement of what is going on: Obama has endorsed the church and the pastor. They were on his campaign. He went for 20 years. He said the teachings shaped him...the question is: shaped him into what?

Those are valid questions.

And you know damn well that everyone Clinton has ever even looked at has been used to trash her.

Because I've been waiting for the MSM to cover the assorted shady characters the Clintons have been consorting with, and getting a lot of money from, as closely as they've been covering Obama's pastors.

from the church I used to attend for upwards of 20 years. Went there nearly every Sunday and listened to anti-abortion, anti-gay sermons. I was baptized as a young adult in that church. You might therefor infer that I am anti-abortion and anti-gay. You would be wrong. The result was that I became a confirmed atheist. You see, I am a thinking adult and eventually rejected that stuff.

"And you know damn well that everyone Clinton has ever even looked at has been used to trash her." Really? Name some of the Clinton associations that the MSM has reported. I have heard not much or anything about them in the MSM.

Obama sanctioned "that stuff" until it started affecting his campaign. THEN and ONLY THEN did he reject "that stuff."

That is the problem here. Why is it ok with him? NOW he stands against it, but ONLY because it affected his campaign.

church. I still respect the place and would defend it to this day, because their values were important to them and they were true to them. I posted that to say you can attend a church for years and still not be influenced by sermons you disagree with. An intelligent person knows his own mind and cannot be unduly influenced by the words of others, but can still respect and defend those words. What's so hard to understand about that? The weak-minded can be easily influenced, but not the self-confident and intelligent person who forms his own reasoned opinions, which is what I believe Obama to be.

and I'm still waiting for Obama to apologize. After all, I support him, so he owes it to me.

He's just lucky there's no video of my saying it or it'd be all over YouTube and Fox News.

"WHEN WILL OBAMA APOLOGIZE FOR UNKIND WORDS SAID BY SUPPORTER TO HER OWN SISTER?"

Hillary has been forced to do nothing but apologize it seems. :eyes:

all I remember were "regrets"

they can't find much on him so they have to find someone that he knew when he was 8 years old.

I must have missed it.

but every time someone else comes out and sticks their size 12's in their mouth.. there is this din , that Senator Obama MUST make a speech.. he must address this..what this person has said.. he has addressed it..and that is that.. there is no amount of talking to people who want something there that is not there.. in the end they will draw it in if nothing else to fit their scenario that they have constructed.. :)

that`s why people here are pissed off that nothing sticks....he just brushes off his shoulders and goes about his business...

i can`t wait until she leaves and goes back to new york

twisted logic

that's what this is all about.

you don't think his opponents are asking because morally it is the correct thing, do you?

First of all, we have to assume you are referring to the Pfleger thing.
Second, Obama didn't apologize for it.
Third, even if he did, he didn't HAVE TO, he would have CHOSEN TO.
Fourth, a totally off the wall comment about the other candidates with no basis in fact or any resemblance to reality.

So basically what we have here is a completely false premise supposedly supported by a lie and a rant.


So, I think I can make the case that this kind of post is very disrespectful to DU as a community, to DUers personally, and is like a piece of garbage thrown on the floor. It's litter. Fortunately, due to the nature of the site, everything gets cleaned up eventually, but they still leave stains.

It's just so... ironic... that a person who takes no responsibility for their words here is posting about others taking responsibility for their words. As if DU is somehow a no-responsibility-zone.