CSPIN pix of the Hillaryan protesters. What a sorry sight.

They really should be ashamed of themselves.

They are fighting for the right of 367 individuals from Florida and Michigan to fly to Denver (I do believe the delegates can purchase their own tickets for less than $400 in advance) so they can scream, make fools of themselves and party. Wow. What an epic goal. What a great political movement. Yes, those 367 MUST BE ALLOWED TO PARTY WITH OTHERS!

silly.


Funny how these very same Hillaryans fail to address two points:
1 - What of the millions of voters who DID NOT VOTE because they knew that the primaries were a sham and broke the rules?

2- What about the pledge of their queen that she knew these primaries would not count?

the first point is far more important, in my unworthy mind, than their fight to seat 367 future besotted people wearing really stupid hats and waving ugly flags.
But the Hillaryans will never address these points, because they are fatal to their position, just as fatal as facts have been to the Hillary campaign.

The worst of all is that all this energy is wasted. The real truth is that millions in Florida and Michigan WILL STILL VOTE IN NOVEMBER. THEIR VOTES WILL COUNT when and where it really counts. All of this sham, this bullshit, this energy to keep HILLARYIS44 alive and unwell, is nothing more than one more lie from the campaign.

When the video of these protesters comes around, take a close look at these deluded, confused, and misguided people. Imagine that they were given the real facts, and that they turned this energy into electing a democrat in November. But alas, no. They have their queen, and much like the White Sox - Cubs eons old rivalry, members of one team would rather see the other city team lose, rather than celebrate the city's victory.

Just let her be. She will be licking wounds then come back to reality shortly. Like a few days from now.

or haven't you heard? :sarcasm: :rofl:

They are GOP.

prohibit vote count. When you use such ugly talking points and obvious outlandish comparisons just to justify your hatred, it makes you and DU look small.

re: Florida and Michigan.

disenfranchised voters and keep the votes from being counted.

When people are pissed about that you try to shut them up by comparing them to republican plants. You are doing what the Republican plants are doing: attempting to disenfranchise voters and shut them up.

You should be ashamed of attempting to stifle democracy.

list--because he knew he would lose.

You are advocating the disenfranchisement of two states worth of voters for your political partisan gain.

And you are actually attacking Democrats who are fighting FOR votes as if they were republican.

You are in a topsy-turvy, through the looking glass world.

And this mindset will come back to bite Democrats. For, if we are willing to disenfranchise voters because it helps our candidate--WE then cannot complain in the general when the republicans try to do it.

I'm a Democrat who believes in following the rules of the DNC. Clinton signed a pledge that she has now broken.

BTW, if the Michigan vote was taken today, Obama would win.

call names. "Baghdad Bob." A vile man who helped to hurt Americans. And you use it on me.

You have lost all perspective. You have dehumanized those who disagree with you and now actually think it is ok for you to attack me with the same things you attack republicans and terrorists.

Wow. I shake my head in amazement at the ugliness on DU.

:nopity:

your true character.

Were they all afraid to lose? At some point, you have to get away from your firm stance on the matter to really think about it all.

The fact is that Obama was not on the ballot, nor were those others, because they were following DNC rules.

Who put them there?

Obama, Edwards, Richards and Biden took their own names off the ballot there to follow the DNC rules. In what universe does Hillary vs "candidate not on ballot" make her delegates legitimate?

Which Senator came forward when the CBC was begging for just one to step forward so they could contest the certification of that vote? Was it Bill Nelson?

Gore FOLLOWED the rules, she DIDN'T. Don't compare them. they are NOT the same.

If Hillary was ahead in pledged and super delegates. She'd telling the Obama and his supporters to "suck it up and grow up", "Florida and Georgia broke the rules and their votes will not count".

if this was reversed.

obama doesnt live in a dillusional fictional world where everything has to go his way.

Hillary is, well, we all know what she has become. And it is not pretty.

But then, there isn't a desperate Republican infiltration machine called the DLC demanding that Obama stay in the race, because they know their own future existence is on the line.

or in 2004?
when thousands had their votes STOLEN.

oh thats right, hillary wasnt running.


these people dont give a shit about counting votes or maintaining democracy... they just want their candidate to win.

its the saddest thing ive witnessed

:sarcasm:

in 2000... and i even voted for nader.


where were you ?

but ask some Obamabots, where were they before they had a cool candidate they could project all their hopes on? Well?

They probably had zero interest in any political event. You are the exception, not the rule.

were all right here back then as well, some of us well before you. Cool candidate indeed. He most certainly is!

It seemed to me, back in early 2001, that the mainstream Democrats refused to even mention that Gore had won Florida. It seemed like most of them were in "move on" mode (as opposed to MoveOn - which was screaming bloody murder about the stolen election). It was considered impolite in most traditional Democratic circles to bring up the "conspiracy theory" that the Supreme Court and Jeb Bush had fraudulently handed the election to W.

I was marching in DC in May of 2001 with a sign that said "Hail to the Thief." Funny. I didn't see many of the DLC wing of the Democratic party (Hillary's base) or the Clintons themselves marching with us. They dislike getting their feet dirty by mixing with the grassroots.

They're fighting for "hillary's votes". Note that the hillary camp is outrageously trying to claim Obama should not receive delegates from MI, where he abided by the rules and complied with a request to remove his name from the ballot... indeed, HRC wants to claim some of the "uncommited" votes! WTF??!! They want us to believe that given the opportunity to vote for hillary, some MI voters instead voted for "uncommitted"? Also, note that hillary doesn't want to count the caucus votes in her fallacious "popular vote" arguement. No, hillary is not some martyr fighting for universal sufferage- she's a brazen cheat who's attempting to game the system to overturn her loss.

Were the scripted call center Hillbots calling CSPAN, every one of them reading the exact same fucking script.

Yeah, SUUURRRRRRRE they all just coincidentally were "african american women who were pissed off at the Democratic party and were going to vote Republican for the first time in their lives" if the DNC didn't give the nomination to Hillary.

Truly pathetic.

Although I disagree with the issue that they are protesting, I favor of people exercising their Amendment 1 rights, rather than simply complaining or ignoring what is happening in America today.

but there is a difference between exercising that right, and supporting a lie.

I also am aware that some of the people who are pushing the confrontational tactics and urging democrats to not vote for our candidate are not democrats -- they are agents of the republican party.

You are making important points here. Thus, I nominated the thread. While I am the first, I hope others nominate it, too.

I'm fully willing to believe that Obama COULD drop out now and run under another party banner in a 5-way race (Clinton, McCain, Obama, Nader, and McKinney?) and easily come out the winner in the GE. Imagine, McCain (especially), Nader, and McKinney would all have to share the blame for the perceived sexism and unfair campaigning against Hillary. She could continue to be the "ultimate victim" right up to the GE and afterwards. Given that scenario, Obama wouldn't even have to continue to be nice to her - could treat her just like McCain.

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she just got admitted to intensive care. I have to figure out the best way to go visit. luckily her city has great cardiac units.

asshole.

To disenfranchise those who played by the rules and stayed home in favor of counting the ones who voted merely because it puts Ms. Clinton in a better personal position is not a good thing. There is no other way to read this than for what it is - cheating and manipulating dumb people to get ahead.

To ignore that Ms. Clinton is more than willig to break her word, her pledge and change policies and rules when it advances her personal ambitions is to ignore the fact that this would be how policy would be made and carried out in her WH. That is a Bush strategy. The supporters who loyally follow her and give donations don't understand that if she is willing to even attempt to change rules in the middle of a game just to suit her ambitions, it bodes badly for any chance of consistent policy making, and for listening to the wishes of her supporters. She doesn't care much for them, which will be apparent when she leaves the race next week. Only because she gave them the impression she would fight on in their behalf, which she has no intention of doing, as it would kill her political future.

Is it freerepublic yet? :eyes: