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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:37 PM
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Does the popular vote stand in Michigan?
I understand that it will in Florida but what about Michigan since this was the lynchpin to Hillary's phony Popular Vote argument.

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:39 PM
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1. I want to know the same thing.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:42 PM
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2. There will be no official declarations about the popular vote because it isn't an official thing
It is an argument that the Clinton campaign will continue to use to superdelegates. They have been counting all of her vote in her total and none of the uncommitted vote in Obama's total (in spite of saying that the MI vote is legitimate because the Obama campaign urged his supporters to vote uncommitted).

Her campaign will continue to do so and the Obama campaign will continue not doing so. So, nothing has changed in that regard.

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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:43 PM
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3. It will to Hillary and her supporters. nm
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my3boyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:44 PM
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4. Probably. They were claiming it anyway so it won't make a difference. nt
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:48 PM
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5. There is no DNC sanctioned "official" count of the popular vote
there never has been.

Obama's camp still does not recognize the popular vote in Florida as a measuring stick - they agreed to use the straw poll as a measuring stick by which to apportion delegates - nothing more.

The delegate division in Michigan in no way represents the popular vote - it is an apportioned division that the rules committee feels best reflects the will of the voters of Michigan. The state democratic party in Michigan put this division forward, Obama's camp was willing to compromise their position and accept it, it is unclear what the Clinton camp will do with this.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:49 PM
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6. The "popular vote" doesn't matter, nor does it honestly exist in this process
It was not discussed today since it doesn't determine who is our nominee.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:51 PM
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7. The "popular vote" doesn't exist, so the question is meaningless.
Seriously. There is no official "popular vote" tally. Count FL and MI if you like, discount them if you like. Count how the voices in your head want to vote; that's just as legitimate.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:51 PM
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8. There is no such thing as 'popular vote' in a mixed primary/caucus system.
It is about DELEGATES, not popular vote; Hillary's argument is not an argument, and no-one who matters takes it seriously.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:51 PM
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9. uh, how can you change the popular vote? Her argument is as silly today as it was yesterday but the
numbers are the same.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:13 PM
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10. If the Michigan State Democratic Party..
does not recognize it's own election, declares it's own election invalid, I don't know how you count any votes.
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:15 PM
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11. Who cares n/t
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