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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:41 PM
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So, Obama has the nomination practically all sewn up...
and many of his supporters here can only be spiteful and hateful toward Hillary supporters.

I'm a Hillary supporter and I always will be. That's not going to change. I'm not blind to the fact that Obama will at the very least be the Dem nominee. I have no problem with that. In my ideal world, Obama and Hillary would be on a unified ticket. I know that probably won't happen, but I gladly support Barack Obama for president.

Can someone please explain to me how Senator Obama is benefited by the hateful attacks on Hillary and her supporters?

How is Barack Obama helped by calling Hillary names, verbally attacking her supporters or just plain being mean? We claim to despise it in the repukes. Historically, they've had a horrific streak of meanness in them that is a mile wide, but what does that make you and others who say almost those same exact things in regards to fellow Democrats?

If there is divisiveness in the Democratic Party...Hillary isn't to blame for it and neither is Obama.

It's supporters who use vile repuke-type attacks against fellow Dems in order to prop up their candidate of choice. In the end...it hurts us all including the Dems doing the attacking.

Sinking to repuke lows in order to prop up your candidate of choice hurts us all and benefits the repukes.

It's time to get behind the Dem nominee. It's time to stop attacking Hillary and her supporters.

It is time for ALL OF US to unite and take this country back.
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Skrelnick Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:42 PM
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1. Spew all the hate you want, but you and your stubborn ilk are killing the Dem Party
Edited on Sat May-31-08 06:42 PM by Skrelnick
FACT.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:42 PM
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2. Hate? Where? Did you even read it?
:shrug:
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:45 PM
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9. The poster didn't even bother to read your words
It just "Hillary supporter" and the responder went off like Pavlov's dog. (At least they didn't call you white supremacist.)
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:46 PM
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12. Hate?
There was no hate in that post. There wasn't even any negativity in that post.

Don't be Ickey.


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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:54 PM
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18. Easy, bro.
I didn't detect any hate in the OP. A bit of sad resignation, but no hate.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM
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26. Clinton's supporters' behavior today WAS detestable
Edited on Sat May-31-08 07:06 PM by crankychatter
it's only natural to detest them

you ALWAYS cry foul right after you kick people in the nads

amazing... absolutely amazing
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:43 PM
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3. "It is time for ALL OF US to unite and take this country back."
Most of the Hillary supporters do not speak like you.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:44 PM
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8. Well, some Obama supporters here have been rather hateful, too...
I'm sick of seeing it from both sides.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:54 PM
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17. I agree..
It is time to unite and if anyone cannot get through the hatred we are so screwed.

We need to position ourselves not just for the next FOUR years... we need to make sure we clinch it for atleast eight.

I am tired of the infighting, it;s time to come together... period.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:55 PM
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19. Respectfully disagree.
Most Hillary supporters do feel that way. They are not vocal here because.....well, just look at the responses to the OP.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:55 PM
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20. Yep--the Hillary supporters at the RBC meeting didn't get that memo.
So spare me the outrage.
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:43 PM
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4. Fuck Hillary. I won't vote a ticket with her anywhere in the cabinet. n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:48 PM
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14. Political neophyte? the arrangement
is quite standard...

In an ideal world I would not have any DLC members anywhere close to any position of power, alas I don't live in an ideal world
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:43 PM
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5. The Hillary supporters are the ones acting like animals at the rules committee
meeting. Like Harold Ickes.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:45 PM
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11. Um...no. n/t
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:44 PM
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7. I reserve the right to be mean to SOME Clinton supporters...
...who are simply being rude to me.

As long as you accept the outcome of this week, you'll receive no nastiness from this DU'er.
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writes3000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:45 PM
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10. I don't consider myself a hate-spewer.
But I think BOTH sides need to look at their actions and voices here.

Both sides have become so invested in their candidate that they now see the other candidate as evil, Republican, and worse.

We should all stay calm and try to remain mature.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:46 PM
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13. It's flowed from a small group ON BOTH SIDES
since you are a partisan you feel it more... but the cyber bullying has come from both
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:49 PM
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15. Links to support this please:
>>How is Barack Obama helped by calling Hillary names, verbally attacking her supporters or just plain being mean? <<<
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:53 PM
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16. K & R
It is painful to watch. It is particularly painful to watch how your excellent post is being attacked.
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 06:59 PM
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21. Then perhaps the original poster should have chosen words..
.. more carefully.

While I agree with the intent of the excellent post to become united. There were a few things in the post that would have been better off not said.
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cbayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:03 PM
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24. Like what?
I saw your request for links. All you have to do is look at the first page of GD:P to see them. The OP was addressing the behavior of some Obama supporters here, not the candidate himself.
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Lerrad Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:51 PM
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31. Like This:
>>How is Barack Obama helped by calling Hillary names, verbally attacking her supporters or just plain being mean? <<<
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:02 PM
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22. I like the spirit of your post
I do hope the crazies on both sides will calm down so we can move on to the larger task of taking back our country.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:03 PM
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23. A person is responsible for their words..
regardless of who they support. I do not have a blanket dislike for any group of people. I take offense at the behavior of the individual.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:04 PM
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25. Clintonites SCREAMING DENVER on National Television and you're telling Obama supporters to chill out
guess what?

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:17 PM
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27. i could write a thesis on the hypocricy in your post... but i won't.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:18 PM
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28. I believe Hillary IS the cause - completely.
She never stops pushing her "feminist" base. Now she has all these crazy old women making fools of themselves. It doesn't look like Hillary wants them to stop. She could have requested they not demonstrate and asked them to be polite, but, no - she encouraged the demonstration - against her own party. She encouraged the division. She is still encouraging division. What is her purpose for this? It is certainly not uniting the party for a Democratic win in November. Certainly I will never trust her or respect her again. It is just so frustrating that people don't or won't see what she's doing.
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:23 PM
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29. People are people cynatnite. Some are stupid. Some are rude. Some are thoughtful. Some are
Edited on Sat May-31-08 07:24 PM by IsItJustMe
mean spirited.

Clinton or Obama supporters or trolls or Republicans are all made up of all types of people. No one, I honestly don't think, is exempt. Just the way it is.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 07:42 PM
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30. I respectuously disagree. While you and many other Clinton supporters have simply defended their
Edited on Sat May-31-08 07:44 PM by Mass
candidate and supported her cause, there has been some (not just a few) that have totally jumped the shark and promoted division and hatred, preferring openly a loss of the Democratic candidate if he is not Hillary Clinton. While I can understand deception and frustration (my candidate has been out of the race before it started), it is extremely difficult to accept the racism of some of her supporters and the sense of entitlement of others.

At this point and while I have no issue with her finishing the 3 last contexts, it is clear she cannot win before the convention and that even there, it will be extremely difficult to win. Continuing after June 3, as Harold Ickes just announced in HER name, is then a fight to destroy the party and make sure her opponent is not in a position to win the presidency. So, do not ask me to be nice with those who promote this policy.

In fact, I have a huge respect with those of her supporters in the rules committee who told her supporters to shut up. I can understand the deception, but, once again, these people do not honor their candidate being like that, and, if Hillary Clinton does not disavow Hickes very soon, she will have ruined every little bit of respect I had left for her.

(and the first poster, if he is an Obama supporter, does not honor Obama either by painting all Clinton supporters with a wild brush).
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:54 PM
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32. And another whinging post from
a hilary supporter..color me shocked
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:56 PM
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33. YES!!! That' s exactly what ran through my mind, day and night!!!
NOT:

:nopity:
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 09:56 PM
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34. I don't consider myself spiteful or hateful
Though I will admit occasionally snarky.

I will argue facts until the cows come home, but I don;t think that makes me confrontational.

I even bought a Clinton supporter a star.

I have no idea how many ignore lists I am on, though.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-31-08 10:00 PM
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35. Agreed. The Duty of Unity is not on Clinton or her supporters.
It is not on Obama or his supporters. It is on Us. All of Us. All of Us that know it is time to claim what is Ours, This Country. Regardless of who anyone preferred, we all know that the ONLY Progressives or Populists are in the Democratic Party.
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