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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:09 PM
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Ben Nelson to oppose public health plan. Guess why...
I can't believe he so openly admitted it:

Nelson's problem, he told CQ, is that the public plan would be too attractive and would hurt the private insurance plans. "At the end of the day, the public plan wins the game," Nelson said. Including a public option in a health plan, he said, was a "deal breaker."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/01/ben-nelson-plans-to-oppos_n_194907.html

Because it's too good for the public! Who the fuck are these guys running our government?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:12 PM
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1. Also see
Edited on Fri May-01-09 11:13 PM by Crazy Dave
Senator Ben Nelson has reported a total of 177 contributions ($200 or more) totaling $134,518
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00005329&cycle=2008&type=I&newMem=N&recs=100
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:49 PM
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10. So 135K Would Be The Top Bid
I bet the progressive community could raise that. Why don't we just buy them all off? It would be so much easier than trying to reason with them.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:21 AM
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13. So .... If WE in DU contributed about 10 dollars apiece ...
On the grounds that Nelson SUPPORT the legislation, then we could top the lobbyists ....

Hmmmm .... just a thought ....

Nelson is an ass ....
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:17 PM
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2. We should start calling him Butthead Nelson.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:10 PM
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41. Does that mean that Bill Nelson is Beavis?

Huh huh huh huh you said "single payer".... Dumbass. Huh huh huh huh huh huh
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:18 PM
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3. Apparently Mr. Nelson can be bought by anyone with
the right amount of dollars.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:18 PM
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4. Well, a self-professed Insurance Whore. nt
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:20 PM
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5. Label him: FUCKING ASSHOLE
:puke: He is interested in saving AIG. GMAFB......:eyes:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:21 PM
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6. check out what he said about Richard Durbin's mortgage assistance bill
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5578739&mesg_id=5578739


“Do I want to have my rate go up so that somebody else might be able to cram down” their mortgage payment?" asked Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., who voted against the bill. Associated Press, Apr. 30, 2009
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:21 PM
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7. The good news is we only need 50 votes. The bad news?
Edited on Fri May-01-09 11:22 PM by DrToast
With some of these jerkoffs, I'm starting to wonder if we have 50 votes for the public plan.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:40 AM
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18. Specter is on board.
His own health troubles have convinced him.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:27 PM
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8. I can't stand that guy.
:puke:
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:42 PM
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9. His constituents
have been telling him about their troubles with insurance companies and no insurance and he has finally admitted he does not give a crap.
They actually elected this loser?
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 11:49 PM
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11. The Reptile Simply Gives The Game Away, Doctor
Edited on Fri May-01-09 11:50 PM by The Magistrate
The public would prefer the government plan because it would give less costly, more reliable, and wider coverage than any private insurance. So, as a bought and paid for whore of the insurance industry, he must oppose what the people want with might and main.

Any adequate reform of health care in this country must involve breaking the health insurance companies, since they are the chief problem with our system of health care. Unless they are put on a course to extinction, the problems they inflict cannot be remedied.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:41 AM
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15. +1
Well said

:thumbsup:
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:28 AM
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19. I won't say the name but there was one presidential candidate who argued during the primaries...
Edited on Sat May-02-09 09:28 AM by Crazy Dave
...that big business and large corporate special interest groups were Americans with rights and needed to be heard too
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:14 PM
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42. I remember that well
I also remember that candidate was an advocate of mandatory corporate controlled health care, which is the exact opposite of where we need to go. But apparently Senator Nelson would prefer that fucked up approach as well.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:00 AM
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12. He's a Republican. Voting for Bush Tax cuts, Roberts AND Alito, against the budget
fucking up the stimulus plan, etc.......

He's a Republican. DINO
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 02:36 AM
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17. Where's our version of the Club for Growth?
This guy is more of a Republican than Specter was a Democrat.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:29 AM
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14. How did NE go from Bob Kerrey
to this jackass?
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:45 AM
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16. Bob Kerrey could be an ass too
He was kind of a Lieberman.

But despite Kerrey's idiosyncrasies, he at least was a real liberal on many major issues, like civil rights and health care.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:44 AM
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29. Bob Kerry is a huge jackass as well.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:20 PM
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35. Still, he was a jackass who favored universal health care and voted against DOMA
He was an ass. And a warmonger and a potential social security sellout. But his voting was fairly idiosyncratic, with plenty of liberal positions in there, like support for single-payer UHC, votes against welfare reform, and a vote against DOMA.

Ben Nelson is just a conservative DINO, who breaks with the Democratic Party on all the same issues that Kerrey did and then some.

I'd take Kerrey over Nelson any day.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 09:38 AM
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20. We have more work to do. We need to get rid of Democrats like Nelson who vote against the American
people's best interests.

What is the point of a Democratic majority if they are not going to bring about the change that meet Americans' most critical needs like health care?
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:22 AM
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22. Be nice to announce a Primary challenger against him and flood
a war chest with our little nickel and dimes - scare the shit out of him and any of the rest of these bought and paid for whores.

Flood his office with phone calls and faxes reminding him the We, the Little People forced Lieberman out in a primary and he's next if he doesn't stop taking the lobbyists side over ours all the time
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crazylikafox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:50 AM
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30. When is he up for re-election??? I'm from Maryland but I'll send money to a primary challanger.
If we all send a little money, maybe we can start to scare the shit out of these corporate tools. If not him, what other insurance company tool has an election coming up with a good potential primary challenger we can support????
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:07 PM
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40. Here's the problem: getting rid of "Democrats like Nelson" in Nebraska...
leaves one with Republicans. We simply aren't going to get a liberal Democrat elected in NE anytime soon.

Hard as this may be to believe, Nelson's recent Republican challengers would have been significantly worse.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 10:16 AM
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21. I wonder how many jobs in Nebraska are tied to the health insurance industry
Nelson may be concerned about his ability to be reelected.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:11 AM
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23. Mutual of Omaha.
Any questions?
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:21 AM
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24. Nelson should be forced to wrestle an anaconda while Marlon Perkins commentates.
:mad:
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:23 AM
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25. .
:rofl:


(I think Marlon is dead.)

(Ben will be well covered if he makes it to the hospital.)
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:38 AM
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26. Wow, what a douche
Seriously Ben Nelson is really trying to screw up Obama's agenda.

He's as big of a threat as any republican out there and if we're relying on the likes of him, we're going to get some really watered down crappy legislation for everything from health care to anything else.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:41 AM
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27. That quote makes for a great Billboard in favor of Single Payer Healthcare...n/t
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:44 AM
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28. Nelson's a bigger problem on several fronts than Spector.
Nelson has his head so far up the insurance companies asses, he can't see what's good for his constituents.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:56 AM
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31. He opposes it because people want it? Hurray!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:11 PM
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32. Because he's an asshole.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:12 PM
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33. Ben Nelson (R) Nebraska
Why are we talking about Republicans here? Oh, so that Arlen Specter can look liberal by comparison!

:rofl:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:13 PM
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34. Because he is a whore for the health care industry.
And while we are bashing Nelson, let's not forget the Democratic Senators that sided with the mortgage bankers and did a BOHICA on homeowners.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:48 PM
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36. That's why I'm still worried about the votes for the public plan
Even with reconciliation, it's not a slam dunk.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:49 PM
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37. He now is a self-identified horse's ass. n/t
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 12:54 PM
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38. Wait a minute!!!
I thought that "Government" couldn't do anything right????
:wtf:

Does he have a private or public (Government) health insurance plan as a US Senator? If he has a public plan, maybe we should throw him off of it and make him get a private plan. After all, WE the taxpayers are paying for him (and HIS family) to get something the rest of us can't get. That doesn't seem very fair to me.
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:02 PM
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39. Nelson has deep ties to Insurance companies.
Nelson has deep ties to Insurance companies as shown in his Senate bio.

"Nelson enjoyed a successful career in insurance law. He has served as CEO of the Central National Insurance Group, as chief of staff and executive vice president of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, and as director of the Nebraska Department of Insurance."

http://bennelson.senate.gov/about/biography.cfm?pgView=printable&pgLang=english

I cringe every time he speaks out against things like this.

DINO is an accurate description.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 01:39 PM
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43. I am speechless
Even Maggie Thatcher was never quite that brazen.

And this is supposed to be a Dem????
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:37 AM
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44. So, when is going to give up his govt.-provided healthcare. nt
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