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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:54 PM
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Obama May Seek Out Centrist to Replace Souter on Supreme Court
May 3 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama, weighing advice from both the left and right on his first Supreme Court choice, is likely to seek a judicial version of himself: a moderate coalition-builder.

In making his first imprint on the court, Obama will choose from a list of candidates who would add ethnic or gender diversity. The most discussed possibilities -- federal appeals court judges Diane Wood and Sonia Sotomayor and U.S. Solicitor General Elena Kagan -- are well-credentialed lawyers whose records suggest they would become moderate-to-liberal justices.





http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20090503/pl_bloomberg/aywe5vw98mta
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:56 PM
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1. As a centrist, I have to disagree
I would pick the most liberal judge I could get away with to balance the nut jobs already there are make the court itself centrist.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:29 PM
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34. Dupe - please delete
Edited on Sun May-03-09 09:30 PM by sampsonblk
Dupe
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:57 PM
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2. Why do we always SHAFT ourselves?
We need to BALANCE the court, and that means we need someone RELIABLY LIBERAL. Jeeze. We have a fucking giant majority, a mandate from the public and we're STILL pandering to the corporatists and religionists.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:07 PM
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11. Psst...hey! Buddy! He hasn't actually chosen anyone yet.
I think I'm going to get an article published on Yahoo News that says Obama will appoint a kangaroo to the Supreme Court so animal rights and the environment are represented--and see how many people bite.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:16 PM
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15. I am aware of that
Still, since our "leadership" has shafted us for decades it's all too believable that they'll do it again. And, hey, this is a discussion board. Is it OK with you if I get my nickel in?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:30 PM
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16. No one's shafted anyone yet.
Let the man make a decision, then decide whether he's "shafted" you or not.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:22 PM
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27. good point!


Thanks.



Nice basketball team, btw.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 04:59 PM
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3. Maybe there's a deserving staff attorney at Goldman Sachs! n/t
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:00 PM
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4. Just to preempt the shrieks of outrage that will come from SOME DUers here
Edited on Sun May-03-09 05:06 PM by bluestateguy
This "story" is based on nothing more than pure speculation and impressionistic crap.

In other words, don't take it seriously.

I only ask that you wait until he makes the appointment before you find something to get outraged about.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:03 PM
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7. Folks here consistently fall for speculation like this. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:06 PM
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10. No one will wait.
At times, this place is like if Free Republic gained the ability to think critically.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:26 PM
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33. Yup...it's already started in other threads. n/t
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ErinBerin84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:02 PM
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5. Obama may seek centrist
is more like Yahoo hopes Obama will seek a centrist, haha. Though I agree with Rachel that there is a striking contrast between the media with Bush, and their "He will need to pick a strong conservative", while they would never say that Obama should pick a strong liberal.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:02 PM
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6. The writer is basing this article on opinions from the left and right
and political scholars. None of them have a clue as to who the President is going to pick and why. I don't know why they even start this crap. The President isn't going to pick some rabid right winger, or someone who isn't liberal.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:05 PM
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8. Diane Wood would be the worst choice of the top tier
Republicans are totally on board with her nomination.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:10 PM
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14. Too old. No one older than Roberts!!
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:05 PM
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9. I got an idea--why don't we ignore the fucking media and LET THE MAN MAKE A CHOICE
before we rip his throat out?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:06 PM
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21. Because it's harder to influence him then. And you can bet that Wall Street is already trying to. nt
Edited on Sun May-03-09 06:07 PM by w4rma
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:35 PM
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29. Yes! Let the power of DU influence him!
:eyes:
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 03:17 AM
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38. If Obama's as tech savvy as he's made out to be, then DU "voices" are probably heard.
Presumably, at least. That's not the same as saying that Obama's waiting with baited breath to see what DU might decide... but as a politician he always has to have an eye, or ear, or whatever, attuned to the political winds. Boards like this are, presumably, part of those political winds that are monitored.

In other words, we windbags can, if we blowhard enough, at least whip at the windflag (or whatever the hell those flag things at airports that gauge wind direction are called) of his political awareness.
If we all just STFU and let him make decisions in a vacuum, then we're just being passive followers... and the only voices that will be heard are those from the "other" side.

Why are so many here so convinced that Obama can't process the cacophony of voices on the internet, analyze them in his own way, and then go on to make his own decision? Why are there so many here that want to keep us from voicing any opinions preemptively to a decision? Are there so many that have such a low opinion of Obama's talents at processing ideas and points of view that they're worried that he'll be "spooked" into making a "bad decision" by "voices" on the internet?... Or are all those who would have us shut up until he has made a decision just afraid of the "Republican boogey men" sifting through our voices for a talking point? As if the mess that is the Republican party now could even recognize a talking point that would be of use to them?...

So, yes... let the power of DU influence him.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:09 PM
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12. let's get a real liberal like......Arlen Specter lol nt
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:09 PM
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13. Bullshit
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:32 PM
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17. ditto n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:35 PM
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18. This isn't a consensus building position. He needs a liberal/progressive for balance.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:44 PM
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19. Get used to these 'opinion' pieces, everyone. That's all they are
and we'll be hearing about everyone and their dog's opinion before this is over. Then, we get to do it all over again a few more times-hopefully.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 05:58 PM
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20. of course...now Obama is decribed as a "moderate"
Edited on Sun May-03-09 06:13 PM by Uzybone
tomorrow they will call him a liberal. Fuck the MSM.

He will pick someone to the left of Souter.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:21 PM
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22. Tell me this: why is it a virtue when Repukes pick the most right-wing conservatives
they can find. But Democrats? Oh, NOOOOO!!! We can't have any liberals!! Everything we do has to be appealing to the right wingers and the media sycophants!! :puke::puke:
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:35 PM
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23. Because we don't elect true liberals - and Obama made no secret of it

During his election...

If we want real liberal leadership, we might want to actually vote one in someday instead of constantly selling ourselves out.

No single payer health care

No bailout of taxpayers, only of banks

A continuation of Bush policies on spying, rendition, and state secrets...

But, hey, let us eat cake. At a 68% approval rating, the people just seem to scarf it up.

The sooner we realize that these 'centerists' politicians are just one side of a two sided fascist coin, and we start actually demanding politicians who represent our views...oh wait...we don't do that...

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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:58 PM
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36. Yeah, I know. It's sad. I always knew he was a Centrist, but my question was more rhetorical
Repukes are never expected to compromise or bend their ideological point of view. Democrats must ALWAYS seek bipartisanship; be moderate; choose moderate or centrist Democrats. Repukes are never expected the same. Different standards! And that's why they can spew this rhetoric about the country being "center-right," and the media lapdogs just pick it up and run with it. They all continue to repeat the lie that the country is more conservative than it really is. And sadly, many Democrats fall right in line...
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-04-09 02:16 AM
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37. Republicans appointed Souter , Brennan, Warren, Blackmun
Edited on Mon May-04-09 02:17 AM by quiller4
Powell, Stevens. It really isn't a virtue to give an extremist from right or left a lifetime appointment. Arguably our best justices have been compassionate scholars with a love for liberty not given to knee jerk reactions in either direction.

I don't mean to suggests that Democrats haven't appointed some great justices, too. Roosevelt gave us Black, Frankfurter and Douglas (among others), Kennedy gave us White, Johnson appointed Thurgood Marshall and Clinton named Ruth Bader Ginsberg to the high court.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:42 PM
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24. That would be disgraceful. A centrist will pull the Court even further to the right.
Souter is one of the more liberal members. Four of the justices - Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Roberts - are off the wall rabid right-wingers. We must have a strong progressive to start to bring some balance.
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freddie mertz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:51 PM
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25. I hope he picks a solid, qualified progressive
Enough with the "centrist" crap for now.

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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:00 PM
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26. The center of the SC gave way a long time ago
As Richard Armitage once said to someone who thought he could bridge the gap with the neocons, "there is no fucking bridge."
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 07:32 PM
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28. Why do we have to please their side ALL the time?
Can we not just get someone tough who can be to the left of center? These people are not even in the majority anymore. They'd fight tooth and nail for a right wing zealot and get them in. I'm sick of catering to these people. They're at 21% approval....fuck them all to hell.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 08:30 PM
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30. All of the responses here sound like excellent LTTEs!
Why don't we do our thing, and start writing to the White House and to newspapers saying what we want? Maybe our President wouldn't mind a bit of support on this!


LETTERS TO THE EDITOR TOOLS

http://www.democrats.org/page/speakout/letterstoeditors
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/dbq/media/

Write the President! http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/
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Old Hank Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:13 PM
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31. The media is projecting
The media is wishing that the SC becomes less liberal. That is why you see all these articles saying without evidence that Obama is seeking to appoint a moderate or centrist. We simply have no idea of the kind of judge Obama wants.

We do know what Bloomberg et. al. want.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:15 PM
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32. Don't they usually give lip service to trying to find somebody similar to the one who is leaving?
Souter was supposed to be conservative but turned out to be surprisingly centrist.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 09:30 PM
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35. I hope he is smarter than that
If Dems pick centrists and GOPers pick right-wing wackos, then we have failed. And the court will remain a right-wing, anti-liberty institution.

No more of this centrist shit. He should pick an unabashed liberal, just as Republicans have picked unabashed right-wing wackos.
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