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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:33 PM
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The smell of GOP fear is in the air (re torture prosecutions)
Republicans warn (AG) Holder on torture (will press to investigate Clinton admin and Congress)

That's not a deterrent. It's desperation. Clinton didn't politicize the DOJ to draft opinions supporting the use of torture, and then approve and authorized its use.

Prosecute the war criminals.





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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:33 PM
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1. That sounds more like a threat, than a warning n/t
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:59 PM
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3. I sure does...and it might work...I think we will find a lot of dems with
dirty hands..
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:42 PM
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2. Fine.
If Clinton committed the similar crimes he should be investigated.

On the other hand, I don't think the minority can get very far with investigations - or that's the story we used be told.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-07-09 10:59 PM
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4. There really is no way they can press to investigate Clinton at this point.
Edited on Thu May-07-09 11:00 PM by liberalmuse
First of all, it was the Bush administration that penned the torture memos. Clinton may have been guilty of allowing the continuing practice of rendition, but he did not advocate, or in any way try to justify the use of torture, nor did he recruit legal hacks to try and make it policy.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:33 AM
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5. One more thing. This whole thing was initiated
by the International Red Cross. They didn't file any similar complaint against Clinton.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 02:47 PM
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8. Exactly. Clinton has nothing to do with this. n/t
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:52 AM
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6. Yes, the smell is desperation ... and real fear.
Check out this recent Op-Ed from frothing Super NeoCon, John Bolton, who is certainly right in the thick of the torture decisions. He was the actual SecState during his tenure there. Powell was the nominal SecState ... he knew it from the moment that Bolton, a Cheney crony, was named (over Powell's objections), but he still played along ... and for that I cannot forgive him.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/05/AR2009050502884.html

<...>
"Despite uncertainties here, developments overseas proceed apace. Spanish Magistrate Baltasar Garzón opened a formal investigation last week of six Bush administration lawyers for their roles in advising on interrogation techniques. Garzón did so over the objections of Spain's attorney general, as he did in 1998 in proceeding against former Chilean president Augusto Pinochet. Under Spain's inquisitorial judicial system, Garzón is essentially unaccountable, whatever the views of Spain's elected government."
<...>

:woohoo:

The shame here is that it is Spain that is taking the stand that WE should be taking. If we are truly a nation of principle, that is.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 02:46 PM
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7. Rendition only became "extraordinary" under bushcheney.
We can sure hope that the pro-torture crowd is as dumb as they seem on this.

The DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy remains obsessed with All-Things-Bill. Now, if we can get a rumor started that any female suspects were brought back to the US first, or that Valerie Plame personally recommended the policy to Bill, they'll be off and running.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:00 PM
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9. Let the pathetic Republicans "investigate".
I believe that basement room at the Capitol annex where they forced Conyers to have his investigations is available.

If all the Republicans attend, they might be able to fill it.
Like everything else they have tried, this will blowback in their faces.
Can you imagine the backlash from America if the Republicans start spending taxpayer money to investigate Clinton AGAIN !


Go ahead, you assholes.
Why stop digging your grave now?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 03:00 PM
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10. Let the pathetic Republicans "investigate".
I believe that basement room at the Capitol annex where they forced Conyers to have his investigations is available.

If all the Republicans attend, they might be able to fill it.
Like everything else they have tried, this will blowback in their faces.
Can you imagine the backlash from America if the Republicans start spending taxpayer money to investigate Clinton AGAIN !


Go ahead, you assholes.
Why stop digging your grave now?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 04:01 PM
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11. Oh, by all means. Of course, we already spend $70 million investigating Clinton,
so that vein may be pretty well tapped out -- but if the Rs desperately want to inquire into Clinton's non-existent secret prisons and how prisoners were treated there, I say, let's go for it: the bottom line is that the Rs will look like obnoxious idiots
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-08-09 06:39 PM
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12. Yeap, the Pelosi crap sounds like ass covering no doubt.
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