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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:34 AM
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Who is Richard Cohen...disgusting Wash Post article defending Cheney's torture methods
What if Cheney's Right?

By Richard Cohen
Tuesday, May 12, 2009

Blogger Alert: I have written a column in defense of Dick Cheney. I know how upsetting this will be to some Cheney critics, and I count myself as one, who think -- in respectful paraphrase of what Mary McCarthy said about Lillian Hellman -- that everything he says is a lie, including the ands and the thes. Yet I have to wonder whether what he is saying now is the truth -- i.e., torture works.

In some sense, this is an arcane point since the United States insists it will not torture anymore -- not that, the Bush people quickly add, it ever did. Torture is a moral abomination, and President Obama is right to restate American opposition to it. But where I reserve a soupçon of doubt is over the question of whether "enhanced interrogation techniques" actually work. That they do not is a matter of absolute conviction among those on the political left, who seem to think that the CIA tortured suspected terrorists just for the hell of it.

Cheney, though, is adamant that the very measures that are now deemed illegal did work and that, furthermore, doing away with them has made the country less safe. Cheney said this most recently on Sunday, on CBS's "Face the Nation." "Those policies were responsible for saving lives," he told Bob Schieffer. In effect, Cheney poses a hard, hard question: Is it more immoral to torture than it is to fail to prevent the deaths of thousands? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/11/AR2009051102668.html



A hard question? The dumbasses in the Bush administration FAILED on 9/11 to protect "thousands". Trying to make up for it by torturing others, sullying America's rep, and making more enemies for us is not a good solution. Who is this Richard Cohen idiot anyway?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:39 AM
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1. so? me putting a cap in my neighbors ass would work too
if I'm trying to get him to stop playing his goddamn megaloud stereo till 3:00 AM.

Doesn't mean I should do it.

But the truth is, no one has shown torture to be a very effective way of getting information. It is an excellent tool of intimidation and control, though.

Is that what we want?
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:43 AM
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2. Seriously, and it emboldens our enemies and only makes them hate us more.
I would say torture has led to increased recruitment in Al Qaeda.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:08 AM
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6. how do you put a piece of headwear in someone's posterior?
sincerely,
Mr. I don't have no street cred.

:)
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:40 AM
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8. Reckon you could get to his fusebox and away in a hurry?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:43 AM
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9. I've actually been considering a pulsed microwave burst
it should fry his circuits. but it could give him cancer too, or cook a small dog. So it's still up in the air.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:46 AM
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3. The big Dick's plan to try to control the torture debate goes rolling along. nt
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 09:49 AM
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4. If cheney's right, we can just STFU about this "Christian nation" bullshit right now
and take that silly ass "in God We Trust" crap off our money. And get rid of that "under god" stuff out of our pledge.

And replace them all with - "The United States of America - where the Ends Justify the Means"
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:04 AM
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5. He's someone who has never been waterboarded,
or made to stay awake for over a week standing with his hands chained above his head.
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HelenWheels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-12-09 10:34 AM
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7. It doesn't matter if it works
it's just plain wrong. And according to people who work with this they got more info with other means.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:51 AM
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10. The Fools ,,,they know not what say and do...for they are the GOP .. group of punks
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