Anyone hearing Turley on MSNBC? He continues to come across as arrogant and pompus

Thrill

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Tue May-26-09 09:40 AM
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Anyone hearing Turley on MSNBC? He continues to come across as arrogant and pompus

Edited on Tue May-26-09 09:41 AM by Thrill

Basically saying the crap we've heard from these conservatives about Sotomayor. The not smart crap. Her opinions don't show the intellect for the Supreme Court?

I fell out with him during the Clinton stuff. And now he continues show he just thinks he's smarter than anyone else. What an arrogant prick.

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rusty charly

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Tue May-26-09 09:42 AM
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1. And, thankfully, he's usually wrong about what happens in the real world.

He went on and on about the Bush crimes and subpoenas and nothing ever came of anything. Wrong. Wrong and wrong again.

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NYC_SKP

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Tue May-26-09 09:43 AM
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2. But oh, he's a "Constitutional Scholar"! :eyes:

He's been quoted of late in his concern over the *policy* the president has (not) for handling detainees.

I personally think he's an asswipe and I have no use for his opinions.

He's an MSM shill first and foremost.

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 09:43 AM
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3. He dissed Thurgood Marshall as a dim bulb after saying Sotomayor's choice "disappointed academics"

Edited on Tue May-26-09 09:44 AM by ClarkUSA

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 10:36 AM
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14. Shit, really? What show? I need to see that...

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 10:40 AM
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15. Really. I was gobsmacked at his smug-faced know-it-all gall.

Edited on Tue May-26-09 10:44 AM by ClarkUSA

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 10:45 AM
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20. And that pressed, plastered and dyed hair wave on the front of his head. n/t

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 10:51 AM
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23. lol! He's coming up next on MSNBC.

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 10:53 AM
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25. I just wrote the same thing before. "Heads up"!

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 10:54 AM
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26. GMTA

:fistbump:

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 10:56 AM
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27. Yup.

:fistbump:

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 10:43 AM
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19. MSNBC. n/t

Edited on Tue May-26-09 10:44 AM by jenmito

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polmaven

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Tue May-26-09 02:44 PM
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51. When will Hardball and KO

and Rachel WAKE UP to this guy,and stop pretending that he is the be all and end all of legal opinion? GOD what a jerk.....!

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MarjorieG

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Tue May-26-09 03:26 PM
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54. Precisely why we need to have SCs living in the real world. Ivory tower judgments have real world

consequence.

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geek tragedy

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Tue May-26-09 09:43 AM
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4. Turkey is a professional whiner

Screw him.

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vaberella

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Tue May-26-09 09:44 AM
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5. Don't bash him...you'll get the Turley pariahs on your arse.

Dude man, I am with you. He's a prick.

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merh

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Tue May-26-09 09:45 AM
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6. He wants the job

After all, only he understands the constitution. :eyes:

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havocmom

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Tue May-26-09 09:47 AM
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7. His mid-life crisis is getting ugly

:puke:

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merh

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Tue May-26-09 10:11 AM
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13. What folks don't realize about lawyers (he is that first) is that they

have tremendous egos. (There is the age old debate, does law school make the asshole or is the asshole naturally attracted to law school? Like the chicken and the egg debate.)

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gkhouston

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Tue May-26-09 02:12 PM
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44. When I think of the people I knew in college who intended to be lawyers, I'd say

that assholes are attracted to law school. I have met some nice lawyers, but they do seem thin on the ground, and some of them came to the law as a second career.

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firedupdem

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Tue May-26-09 09:48 AM
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8. Are you serious?

Oh, fuck off turley. He's an ass at this point.

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Thrill

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Tue May-26-09 09:54 AM
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11. Yes. I was shocked. He pretty much called her

not smart enough for the Supreme Court. Unreal. Given her academic and judicial background

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ecstatic

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Tue May-26-09 09:49 AM
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9. what are his credentials?

:eyes:

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frazzled

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Tue May-26-09 09:54 AM
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10. He's repeating the ugly New Republic whisper campaign against her "intellect and temperament"

As Glenn Greenwald has just put it earlier today:

It is very encouraging that Obama ignored the ugly, vindictive, and anonymous smear campaign led by The New Republic's Jeffrey Rosen and his secret cast of cowardly Eminent Liberal Legal Scholars of the Respectable Intellectual Center. People like that, engaging in tactics of that sort, have exerted far too much influence on our political culture for far too long, and Obama's selection of one of their most recent targets both reflects and advances the erosion of their odious influence. And Obama's choice is also a repudiation of the Jeffrey-Rosen/Ben-Wittes/Stuart-Taylor grievance on behalf of white males that, as Dahlia Lithwick put it, "a diverse bench must inevitably be a second-rate bench."

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/05/26/sotomayor/

I might ask what Professor Turley's intellectual and temperamental qualifications are to assert such judgmental opinion on the new Supreme Court nominee? Perhaps he's just not a Yankees fan.

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MoonRiver

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Tue May-26-09 10:00 AM
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12. I heard him.

What a POS. :puke:

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Nancy Waterman

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Tue May-26-09 10:42 AM
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17. I am with all of you

He is getting increasingly tiresome and predictable. All he does is whine. I have started to mute him since I already know what he will say.

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ShortnFiery

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Tue May-26-09 10:42 AM
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18. I'm changing my opinion of Turley. He may be intellectually honest - to himself - but he is also

a seemingly all-knowing SNOB. :thumbsdown:

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Sensitivity

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Tue May-26-09 10:41 AM
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16. If Sotomayor was as OPINIONATED as Turley SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PICKED!

I suspect she is smarter that Turley thinks she is.

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elleng

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Tue May-26-09 10:45 AM
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21. If confirmed,

Sotomayor would bring more federal judicial experience to the Supreme Court than any justice in 100 years, and more overall judicial experience than anyone confirmed for the Court in the past 70 years. Judge Richard C. Wesley, a George W. Bush appointee to the Second Circuit, said "Sonia is an outstanding colleague with a keen legal mind. She brings a wealth of knowledge and hard work to all her endeavors on our court. It is both a pleasure and an honor to serve with her."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/26/us/politics/26sotomajor.background.html?ref=global-home

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ellacott

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Tue May-26-09 10:48 AM
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22. She was smart enough to get the nomination

Something that Turley has yet to do. As someone said, I was through with after his behavior during the Clinton impeachment. It's been disappointing to see this man showcased on Countdown and Rachel Maddow's show. It was disappointing that they fell for him.

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polmaven

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Tue May-26-09 02:51 PM
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52. Oooh - YES!

On the money with THAT one!

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 10:52 AM
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24. He'll be on MSNBC AGAIN right after the commercial break.

:eyes:

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 10:56 AM
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28. Thanks! I have got to see this.

Im hoping someone asks about Thurgood Marshall again. I cannot believe that.

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CBR

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Tue May-26-09 10:57 AM
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30. He said it. nt

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 10:57 AM
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29. He says she has a "lack of intellectual depth", she won't be "the equal of Scalia"

Thurgood Marshall did not have "massive intellectual impact on the Court" but he "understands liberals' joy at her being a woman and an Hispanic."

What patronizing arrogance.

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 10:58 AM
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31. Shit!

That is...unbelievable.

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 10:59 AM
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32. Isn't it? He's full of himself.

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 11:00 AM
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33. It feels like a damned pat on the head.

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 11:06 AM
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36. Exactly.

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supernova

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Tue May-26-09 11:03 AM
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34. I've liked Turley, but I'm disappointed with him

about saying these things about Justice Sotomayor.

He did the Thurgood Marshall thing on NPR a little while ago too, on the Dian Rheim show. (Diane's not there today.)

He basically had to insult Justice Marshall to say that she wasn't up to intellectual snuff.

I've been basically blind to this aspect of him, but damn. No more.

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jenmito

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Tue May-26-09 11:03 AM
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35. Here's what Turley just said that proves he doesn't get it:

"Questions about empathy and temperament are less important than whether this person is going to have a profound impact-to help shape the court-and this nominee really doesn't have a history to suggest that."

What a snob. And I heard other people saying just the opposite (about the second part of his comment.)

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supernova

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Tue May-26-09 11:15 AM
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37. Justice Marshall really didn't have that chance either

before arguing Brown v The BoE of Topeka.

Sometimes, "unremarkable" people do brilliant things. That's the point.

(unremarkable in Turley's NSHO)

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 02:29 PM
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49. Turley is an snob, IMHO. I read an article where he was talking about his testimony RE impeachment

of Clinton. He talked about it as though he knew that it was pointless but wow! how awesome was it that all these scholars were sitting around discussing it. He even said that you could almost see the founding fathers!

Another expert was on that disagreed with Turley and said that you don't need to have these long, drawn out arguments against segregation, etc. when you can whittle your argument down. Turley, I think, disagrees. He likes the type of judge who can write a 150 page paper on why the president should go hatless or a 500 word opinion on why the president could be impeached for telling Congress he's a natural blond.

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ej510

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Tue May-26-09 11:21 AM
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38. He shitted on Thurgood Marshall fuck him. I cannot understand why Chris

Matthews did not challenge him on the intellectual answers. He came off as racist to me. He maybe jealous, because minorities are progressing faster than him.

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ClarkUSA

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Tue May-26-09 11:24 AM
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39. Chris Matthews was dumbstruck for a few seconds, then he did say it's hard to see...

Edited on Tue May-26-09 11:25 AM by ClarkUSA

how Republicans will get away with saying that about someone who graduated summe cum laude from Princeton and went on to edit the Yale Law Journal. That's when Turley went on to diss Thrugood Marshall! The implication was both Sotomayor and Thurgood Marshall are/were affirmative action picks, unlike the brilliant Justice Scalia.

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Thrill

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Tue May-26-09 11:52 AM
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40. Chris did have that WTF look on his face

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gkhouston

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Tue May-26-09 02:17 PM
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45. Wow. Turley just scored minus one million in the "plays well with others" category.

Or does he not realize that "empathy" is a quality that might help a justice persuade others to his/her point of view, as well as interpret the law in a compassionate, sensible manner?

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SemiCharmedQuark

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Tue May-26-09 02:19 PM
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46. Clearly we want a reptile for the Supreme Court.

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gkhouston

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Tue May-26-09 02:28 PM
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48. Damn you. I've been trying really hard not to think about Cheney in leather. n/t

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grantcart

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Tue May-26-09 11:53 AM
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41. Yes but he gave himself high reviews when he watched the tape.

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WeDidIt

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Tue May-26-09 11:53 AM
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42. Maybe he's jealous

He is quickly losing any credibility he had.

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jillan

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Tue May-26-09 12:35 PM
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43. RW radio is quoting Turley's comments as a reason to vote against her.

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Thrill

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Tue May-26-09 03:42 PM
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55. Typical.

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old mark

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Tue May-26-09 02:19 PM
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47. He is a law professor - arrogant and pompous are his middle names.

MY father in law was a corporate lawyer in Philly for many decades, and even he hated lawyers.

mark

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redqueen

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Tue May-26-09 02:30 PM
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50. No way... Turley? Arrogant and pompous?

The hell you say!

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scrappydo

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Tue May-26-09 03:22 PM
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53. I sent an email to Keith, Rachel, and Chris....

and told them what a turd I thought Turley is - 'course I said it in more professional terms! The more they have Turley on their programs their own credibility is going to suffer. I know Turley has his supporters on DU but this windbag really did himself in today - stupidity at its finest!

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Cha

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Tue May-26-09 03:46 PM
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56. Thank you, scrappydo! Here's their Contacts if

anyone else wants to do it..

Rachel Maddow rachel@msnbc.com
Keith Olberman countdown@msnbc.com
Chris Matthews hardball@msnbc.com

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politicasista

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Tue May-26-09 04:42 PM
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57. He is bitter

Edited on Tue May-26-09 04:46 PM by politicasista

Screw him. Ms. Sotomayor is a really good choice. It's a great day for America. :patriot:

Anybody who poops on a Civil Rights icon like Thurgood Marshall is not worth the time period.

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