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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 05:13 AM
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Arizonans.....WHAT THE HELL...?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-11 05:31 AM by Dover
Are Arizonans aware of what's happening?



Land swap would boost huge Ariz. copper mine


House moves ahead with bill allowing copper mine in Arizona


The House on Tuesday afternoon approved a rule for a bill that would allow a land swap between the federal government and a foreign-owned mining company, which would allow that company to extract copper from a massive copper deposit in southeast Arizona.

The rule was approved in a 245-178 vote in which less than a dozen Democrats voted for it. Democrats lodged several protests against the bill, including that it would only help foreign owned companies. Resolution Copper Mining LLC would be permitted to mine the copper, and that company is owned by Rio Tinto and BHP-Billiton, which both have headquarters and major offices in Britain and Australia.

"Today's bill is not written for the American worker," said House Rules Committee Ranking Member Louise Slaughter (D-NY). "It was written for foreign mining giants who hope to profit for our generosity."

Democrats also argued that Rio Tinto in particular is known to run mines remotely with robots, and said that fact undercuts Republican arguments that allowing the mining to take place would help create U.S. jobs...cont'd

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/189685-house-moves-ahead-with-bill-allowing-copper-mine-in-arizona



Okay, here's something odd -

About 3o minutes ago there was an AP story out about this and I was in the process of cutting and pasting it here.
But when I went back to it to grab it it had disappeared and a search of the AP site on the subject didn't bring it up either.
I've also done a google search of their article and nothing. So all that's left on this whole topic as far as I can find
right now is the above piece. Very strange the way it disappeared from every place.
Seems like a pretty big story, so I'm sure it will come out later.

This was posted 5 days ago and has more info on the copper mine land swap:


http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/188783-house-preparing-to-approve-arizona-copper-mine-land-swap



AMERICA ARE YOUR EYES OPEN? ARE YOU SEEING THIS?!


And in related news:


10/18/2011 11:30:00 AM


Lawmakers behind legislation claim moratorium will hinder job growth -


GRAND CANYON, Ariz. - Republican lawmakers introduced new legislation last week in an attempt to thwart a department of Interior 20-year moratorium on new uranium mining claims on close to one million acres of land around the Grand Canyon.

Republican Congressman Jeff Flake, representing Arizona's Sixth District, along with Congressman Trent Franks (AZ-02) introduced in the House the Northern Arizona Mining Continuity Act of 2011 Oct. 12.

The legislation would also uphold the agreement reached by the Arizona Wilderness Act of 1984 (AWA) that would not ban mining on some of the public lands in the proposed withdrawal. Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Jon Kyl (R-AZ) introduced the legislation in the Senate.

In a letter sent to Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Flake emphasized the potential moratorium on new mining claims would hinder job growth in the area.
In a recent press release, Flake said uranium can be mined safely with little environmental impact.

cont'd

http://grandcanyonnews.com/Main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=9566

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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 06:45 PM
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1. One thing I have observed since moving here last Dec.
They don't even TRY to hide the corruption. The teabags that run this state seem to feel that they can get away with ANYTHING, including wife beating and they DO get away with anything. And yet, we have reps like Raul Grijalva that put my previous CA. rep, Di Fi to shame. My BIL, who has been here forever, tells me that the problem is the Mormons in Phoenix. I don't know. Politically, this is a very strange state.
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 11:34 PM
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2. "Today's bill is not written for the American worker,"
While I can't see any way to support this bill, I have to question that statement. Is this British/Australian company going to bring in British and Australian workers, or are they going to employ American workers? Sounds to me like a similar situation to Toyota opening a new auto plant... some may not like a foreign company establishing a presence in America, but the people taking home a paycheck don't seem to mind.

I learned about the 4 C's when I studied Arizona history: Copper, Cattle, Cotton, and Citrus. In fact, my great-grandfather mined in Arizona for a year or two around 1898-1899 before settling in Michigan. Copper mining has been big here since before we became a state, so I don't oppose it out of hand simply because of the word "mine." I do, however, wish it could be done by local companies with some eye towards good stewardship of the environment.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-11 09:59 PM
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3. 5 Cs - you forgot climate
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 06:28 AM
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4. Thank you
I thought there was another one.

We actually learned "the 3 C's," which were Cattle, Cotton, and Copper, but the book went on to say that Citrus and Climate were sometimes substituted for one of the Cs. I wondered at the time why they didn't just make it 5 C's.

When I typed my post I tried to incorporate that, but I forgot one of the five! :)
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 02:38 PM
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5. because we want to poison the little water we have to get uranium we do not need.
what could be more Republican then that.

Idiots run this state !
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-02-11 11:25 AM
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6. No shit.
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