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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 05:50 PM
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URGENT: Californian's what are we going to do about the republican...
owned electronic voting machine, going to be let in by the appointed republican Secretary of State? We can’t let Arnold and the republican steal an election in 2006!

Republican owned machines keep chipping away & people keep believing the Dem's are going to magically take back Congress in 2006...How?

No matter how much the republicans cheat, as obvious and proven as it is, its to late, once they are in office.
Not one seat has ever been retracted, so as long as they steal a seat they our in. So why not just blatantly steal? What do they have to lose?

If all these "concerned" people here, don't see it exposed day after day on television media, they don't believe it's a very large problem. Stupid, stupid fools, as they'll be scratching their heads again in 2006 & 2008 and pointing fingers, why they lost and then screaming, that maybe it is those republican owned machines...

Now the media is NOT going to make an issue of it, it not in their best interest...They haven't mentioned it in 2000, 2002, 2004 and they won't for 2006 and 2008 and beyond.

As long as television media and the republicans keep feeding these ignorant people stories (as they have in the past so often) that their Dem candidate has a chance...they'll keep arguing and donating and believing they are going to win...

As the republicans will continue to steal the elections they need.

Cuz, they didn't see it on Hardball, and then electronic voting machines must not be too big a problem... Fools!

And NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING has been done to stop the in flow of these machines, nor even to check them out...they just keep pouring in...The republican know what they are doing!!!!

That's the reason they forced the elected Dem Sec. of State (Shelley) to quit...and have, (after their paid for & bullshit recall), republican Gov. Arnold, appointed a republican Sec. of State...who counts our votes and is allowing these republican owned corporate electronic voting machines in...

This was a White House & Rove, sponsored secret plan from the beginning and people still don't see it. Starting with the recall!

This is no coincidence or accident...they want CA and they will have CA when the voting machines are finally in place!!!!!

http://www.techdirt.com/

We have to do something before it's too late.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:03 PM
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1. Count me in when ever there is anything cooking


NObody seems to be on top of this on.

Most are In Denial.

Some thing just because we won in NJ and VA last minth that everything is A- OK.

NOT!
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 06:13 PM
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2. Our Special Election on the Propositions seemed to go OK....I don't see
the wildfire you imply...wouldn't there have been some fineagling on the Prop measures that were in Repub interests?
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-05-05 01:46 AM
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6. You mean you don't know? Most see a win & think things are just peachy!
Edited on Mon Dec-05-05 01:53 AM by LaPera
And never think about what republicans have planned...Arnold can't be allowed to lose, he's the republicans "golden boy" -- republican senator, Orin Hatch is already getting things ready for Musclehead...If Arnold needs the help, he'll have the machines to grab a few precincts here and there. Discreetly! And once announced the winner, HE"S IN!!! No way to get him out. (So they must cheat, it always pays off, always) People can scream all they want but there will be no way to check those machines, that are now going to be let in California!!! Arnold will win & steal the Governship, I am as sure of it, just as I was sure of Bush stealing 200 and 2004, I kept screamed no one listen...I screamed for weeks about Sec. of State Shelley and no one listened, they still don't see the connection...

They ALL said, what you said, "things seem to be just fine".

And now here come the electronic voting machines, like clockwork!

Your not aware of appointed republican Secretary of State, McPherson's plans and hearings last week to bring in electronic voting machines? republican owned Diebold in particular. No paper trail!

One of the reason's the republicans had to get rid of ELECTED Democrat Sec. of State, Shelley!

Democrat Shelley was completely against electronic voting machines, and Diebold in particular, he had to go...the republicans are in complete control of this country in all branches and they are not about to let a state like California go about un challenged forever...

They got their Enron, Ken Lay, Karl Rove supported Governor and used Enron to oust Democratic Davis, their next target had to be CA Secretary of State...like Florida, Georgia, Texas, Ohio it's easy to steal elections when you have a republican Governor and republican Secretary of State and republican owned Electronic Voting Machines...Then it's very, very simple, because the republican owned media never reports a thing...just they were "shocked" how the voting went...Yeah right...

California now has a republican , a republican Secretary of State and now republican owned Diebold machines will be coming in...

And you see everything as fine?

Wake up, it not going to be something throw in your face by the media or anyone else...but it is indeed the republicans plan and goal and really why NOT? They keep getting away with it...wouldn't you keep trying?

Under the bullshit 2002 "Help America Vote Act" it was rammed through by a republican congress, and states all states have to conform to standards that make republican owned electronic voting machine the accepted way for states to go...

Very quickly, the whole country is being wired...republicans don't plan on losing control of the power shift in the house or the executive...The republicans can't win fair and square, they know that, their greed and lie are tailored exclusively for the party of the rich and corporations running this country and workers, all of us like Wal-Mart slaves...They will cheat like and kill...they have and will continue to...

BECAUSE THEY KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT AND WE DO NOTHING AND THINK EVERYTHING IS JUST FINE!
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-03-05 09:59 PM
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3. Keep up with
blackboxvoting.org. Also get a good secretary of state.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 02:23 PM
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4. Also only vote
on paper ballot.
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diva77 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-04-05 04:31 PM
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5. Have you been following the Election Reform forum on the DU? Good
discussions there...
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 03:43 PM
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7. Time for a Democratic "wedge" Initiative
Voter verified paper ballot, and nothing less. I don't see how it could not win. Diebold doesn't have the deep pockets of the Big Pharma.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 06:47 PM
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8. Do you know about how McPherson's certification of the machines and the
Edited on Wed Dec-07-05 06:48 PM by Tiggeroshii
test they were supposed to pass before the certification went? If you have any article or something that can inform me on that, I will greatly appreciate it!
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