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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-04 11:53 PM
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Dems will be smeared for shutting down Boston
Edited on Fri May-21-04 11:59 PM by radiclib
Convention week is shaping up to be a full-blown traffic and commuting disaster for anyone who lives or works anywhere near Boston because of security precautions imposed by the Secret Service and Homeland Security. Does anyone wonder why the party of the so-called President isn't being protected likewise during their NYC festivities? Why will North Station be CLOSED, and not Penn Station? Well, my friends, as we will soon learn from Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, Hume and every other asshat with a microphone, it can only be due to utter arrogance and total indifference to the plight of the working man on the part of the Limousine Liberals, and their elitist comrades in the Democrat Party. Get ready for an all-out festival of Kennedy and Kerry bashing from Rove's media operatives on the subject of the invasion of political hacks that crippled a major American metropolis, costing the city untold millions and practically bankrupting local merchants during the height of tourist season.
Meanwhile, can the truth of the matter be any more obvious to those who actually pay attention enough to realize who controls the Secret Service, and what the agenda might be in all this? Bloomberg claims that, in NYC convention week, no one beyond the garment district will even know the difference.
People around here are apoplectic, and I fear if the real reasons for this fiasco aren't communicated to voters LOUDLY and REPEATEDLY, Kerry could lose his home state.
I can hear it already..."DO WE WANT KERRY AND HIS DEMOCRAT PALS DOING FOR AMERICA WHAT THEY DID FOR BOSTON??"Gaaah :puke:

Edited for moronic spelling
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:26 AM
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1. Boston will gladly take the Dem tourist $.
New York will, too. I know we're psyched to sucker those rich Repuke bastards and complain about the inconvenience, too.
Either way, you're damned if you or damned if you don't.

Both cities (as most cities) want to attract large conventions for the cash infusion. So, it's really in their best interests to make it go well. Oops. Silly me. I was thinking like an old school conservative. I wasn't really thinking like a partisan.

If you think there is any way the Repuke pundits are going to find something nice to say about the Dem convention in Boston or anywhere, then I'd like to have some of what you're smoking (metaphorically speaking).
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:38 AM
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3. Here's the point: Boston will be disrupted, NYC will not
Any $ spent by the few thousand visiting Dems will be more than offset by the businesses that will have to close for the week, and by lost income of those who can't get to work.
I just heard that Kerry is considering delaying his acceptance. Good. I hope they move the whole shebang to Montana.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:10 AM
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6. Then Boston should not have bid to host it.
If they can't or won't handle it in the best interests of their citizens and their contracted guests, then they screw everybody. And that's Boston.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:28 AM
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2. Will the pubs send their goon squad to Boston
to make sure the city is disrupted? -- The same group that went to Florida to disrupt the recount.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:44 AM
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4. They won't have to.
Genuine outrage doesn't need to be staged or bankrolled.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 12:53 AM
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5. I'd prefer it if government agencies weren't involved in "protecting"
our convention site. Let's just say I don't trust them as much as I did back in the day.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 01:12 AM
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7. Frankly, I'd just as soon see the convention skipped this year.
Edited on Sat May-22-04 01:13 AM by Old and In the Way
Too much of a security risk to have the entire Democratic leadership in one location, IMHO. Too tempting a target for terrorists.
Better to conserve the cash and use it in electing Democrats to federal office.

Oh, and if you want to see the RW meme in action, check this thread out:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x532083
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 09:07 AM
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8. It's the SS and Romney
Much more of Boston is being shut down than NYC. And it's not the Dems making the decisions, it's security. So it's the Secret Service and Romney.

Why would Kerry get more security than the current President?

Easy. It's not about security, it's about disrupting people's lives and making them angry. The Secret Service and Mitt Romney are doing their best to make this as horrible as possible on the people of Mass. so that they will blame the dems.

It's already working. All day yesterday, sports radio and the repuke assholes on WAAF were blabbing on and on about how the "rich Democrat frat boys" want their party and it has to inconvenience everyone else. People are being forced to stay home and not work, businesses are shutting down. And they are blaming Kerry and the Dems when in actuality the decisions are being made by the SS and Romney who both support Bush right now.

This is utter bullshit.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:56 PM
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10. Bingo!
And we're totally fucked if we can't counter the tidal wave of crap coming down on the Dems.
Call Dennis & Callahan, call Barnicle, call Severin (good luck getting on), they'll call you a crackpot conspiracy theorist and then probably mute-button your ass when you try to "debate" them, but maybe some people will entertain the possibility that Kennedy and the Democrats don't necessarily control everything that happens around here.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:40 PM
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13. It's bad-I can't stomach sports radio anymore
I want my politics and sports to be separate. It's unfortunate that Callahan has a great working knowledge of sports but is a neo-fascist racist homophobe. I stopped listening to him a long time ago.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-04 11:59 AM
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9. People in the Boston area are getting angry
Yesterday they released the report and map of the closings in the area for the convention, and it is positively absurd. They are closing all the major highways that approach Boston, and closing them a number of miles before they get to the city. They're telling people to take their vacation that week, not that everyone can actually do that. The repug talking points are making the local news. I definitely see the point of Kerry not accepting the nomination until bush does, but that is also giving more ammo to playing this as the rich dem elites inconveniencing the whole city for just a party.

I'm guessing that when the city bid on the convention, they hadn't taken into account the heavy duty security that would accompany it. This is the first convention year when such security was considered needed. And unfortunately, the convention venue, the Fleet Center, is directly alongside a major highway and a train/subway station. It's pretty near impossible for this kind of event there to not affect the whole city, in a city as small as Boston. But I don't see why the road closures have to extend miles out into the 'burbs, unless it's to piss more people off.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 01:59 PM
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11. The actual bid was submitted pre-9/11
This nonsense is being foisted on us by federal agencies under the auspices of guess who. Why isn't Manhattan island being shut down?
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 03:13 PM
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14. I thought the bid was probably pre-9/11.
Thanks for confirming it.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 02:19 PM
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18. This is where John Kerry could show the strengths of being a U.S. Senator.
most Americans look on Senators and Congressmen as being useless or corrupt. As the fourth term Senator of Massachusetts John Kerry should have enough influence to settle these despites with Tom Ridge, Governor Romney, and the Mayor of Boston. If these problems were likely Tom Ridge had a responsibility to explain them before Democrats picked this city to have the Convention.

If Tom Ridge cannot be reasonable on this matter then Ted Kennedy and John Kerry should be raising hell in Massachusetts on these actions, and leading the opposition to blocking off access to the Democratic Convention. This convention should be something everyone in Boston should be proud to participate in, and not be forcibly closed off from!
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-04 02:37 PM
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12. Penn Station will be closed right before the Repuke Convention
you watch-they will pull a move right before the actual convention so they won't face the media barrage that the Dems are facing. They are closing all the streets around Madison Sq. garden and will probably inconvenience the thosands that take buses through Port Authority. The NY media is telling people to stay home that week.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-26-04 09:22 PM
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15. Now it's a TERRA ALERT for Boston. Hmmm..
Either:
A- They will stop at nothing to mess up the Dems, or
B- Al Qaeda really is planning a holocaust for the DNC, having much more to fear from a Kerry administration, and everything to lose from a rollback of US aggression.
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-04 09:55 AM
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16. Am I the only one in Boston not pissed about this?
This convention is good for Boston! All that money flowing into the city. The national coverage of our beautiful city. I'm kind of excited to be so close to all the action. We got the icky blue line fixed up for this. And this kind of situation is why we have public transportation. Instead of taking the highway maybe these people should take the commuter rail for a few days. It's not the end of the world. I know I'll probably be walking more that week- I get claustophobic in crowded trains. So we adjust? It's only a week.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-04 02:55 PM
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17. Problem is, closing North Station affects the commuter rail
The commuter rail lines coming from north of the city all go to North Station. I don't know how that will be dealt with. Same with the subway lines that pass through North Station (green and orange). Driving or taking the T: they get you either way. :shrug:
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