Lawmakers ready for third battle over photo ID at polls

Laylan Copelin did one of the better jobs covering the hearing. He was there most of the grueling 9 hours of it.
:applause: to Laylan!

Sonia

The near tears witness would be Texas GOP Chairwoman Tina Benkiser who got so flustered for being called to the carpet by Lon Burnam over her comments in the Vo/Heflin match, that she just had to well up some emotion to make a quick exit. :eyes:

Sonia

that they were caught perpetrating on video in the House chamber? Naw!! I didn't think so.
Did our fearless attorney general go after the legislators who were clearly committing actual VOTE fraud? Naw, once again.

Debbie Riddle the most active multiple voting legislator in that video authored one of the voter ID bills. Again the law does not apply to them. And if they could really have it their way it would only apply to people who vote for Democrats. :grr:

Here's the link for the YouTube link for Debbie's law breaking multiple votes at the Lege.

Sonia

If a picture ID law passes I will be the first one in line at the voter registrar's office demanding a FREE picture ID.

Of course they will ask if I have a driver's license and I will say "That's none of your damned business. Now give me my FREE picture ID."

I love to make trouble and that law would be an invitation to all troublemakers like me.

It could turn into a movement. We could all march in, sing a verse of Alice's Restaurant, and demand a FREE picture ID.

But keep in mind that free isn't free. You still have to have your birth certificate or some other documentation to get your free ID. If you have that great. What if you don't? You have to order those documents from our state, or some other state and that costs money. So before we go down the path of let's screw with them on the monetary costs part, we have to fight like hell in advance to just cut it off before it goes into place.

Every time they bring up Mexico as an example of the country where you have to have ID to vote, I think oh sure we should hold of Mexico as an example of a country with "free and fair" elections. There's no fraud in Mexican elections because they have voter photo ID.
:wtf:

Are they nuts? And the government does provide that ID for free, but it does cost their government a lot of money to do it too.

Sonia

Sonia

And thanks to Laylan. This ugliness needs to stop. Underneath this, it is nothing more than Xenophobia and racism on the part of the Republicans and I'm glad to see it coming out as such.

Oh. wait a minute. Now I do.
The Voter's Laws made to prevent people from committing Voter fraud.
Voting more than once.
They can not be written to deny one from voting
No one can vote that is not qualify to do so.
And every body that is legal to vote.
Gets to vote. With out question.
What are their goals?
Make the laws so that every body the is eligible to vote.
Get's to vote.
That's not what their doing here.
They are writing the laws in just such a way.
In the name of preventing voter fraud. About 20 people.
That would prevent. About 3,000,0000 people from voting.
The voting laws are to be clean cut and work.
Every body gets o vote.
But if you muddy the water. Confuse the masses.
Make it an endless maze. That no one can make it through.
Through obstacle in their way. That they have to find a way around.
A obstacle course of biblical proportion.
In which there are no survivor.
They have did every thing with in their powers to prevent any body from voting.
A 180 out from what the law requires them to.
Why would any body do some thing like this.
Oh I get it. The Republicans want to win electron at any cost.
What kind of fools do they play us for?
With the computers and the technology that we have now days.
One computer that can be bought for less than $700 dollars has enough power and memory. And the programs .
That there shouldn't be any voter fraud.
When I go to buy gas. And I use a created card.
Every penny is counted.
I get a paper trail.
No one has access to my account but me.
No one has ever refused me the right to use my card because they don't know who I am.
And I'm not he only one that uses a fuel card.
No one knows by business.
This happens every day. All over the world. Every penny is accounted for.
And the state tell me that they can't do the some thing for one day with the counting election votes.
They are playing us for fools.
They don't need a photo ID.
There are way that they can check out who your are with in seconds. And they would know right a way if you were eligible to vote or not.
Just like the files on a computer.
They can be given a pin number that only you will know about.
A person would only be allow to vote once.
And if the computer show that you are voting twice. A red flag pops up. And right a way you will know that some one is going to jail
If they want to use a photo to prevent voter fraud. They can take one. Electronically at the voting both.
It can be part of your paper trail.
But if you are given a pin number that is on your paper work.
You can check right then or later is see if your vote is the same as your paper work.
And if it's not.
Some body has to go to jail.
If the final vote is written in stone. Their are disk that can be written to only.
They can't be changed at a later date. If every step through the election process. There is made a write only disk. The record of every body vote is written in stone. They can't change the paper trail if you are the holder of the paper records,. It can not be changed a later date.
If you are the holder of to photographs.
That is another thing that some one else can change at a later date.
But if they are doing spot checks. Every five minute. And these spot checks are also writhen in stone.
A cross reference by an out side source.
There would be no room for cheating.
They can make it so that any where along the line.
If the vote count changes. They would know where it happened at.
If all events where video through out the voting process.
Right a way you would know who did what when. There would be no lie your way out of it.
Jail time.
When you know about all the things that they can do now days.
That would fix this problem. Right a way for pennies on the dollar.
It becomes blatantly obvious why they are doing the thinks that they are doings.
They want to keep the system the way it is now or make it easer to rig elections.
Or ways to hide the fact that they are rigging elections.
Either they want to clean up the election process or the don't.
They will be judges by their actions.
Every body is watching this time.
They would go so far to lie to you to keep on rigging elections.
Some one needs to stand up and call them on it.
You can allow people to vote electronically.
There are a number of ways to prevent any one from rigging the election.
And if they don't take these steps to do this.
They refuses to have honest elections.
Because they want to going on cheating a business as unseal.
Either they want fair elections. Or they are blowing smoke.
There is no gray area.
The ones that refuse to implement the checks and balances. The cross records.
The paper trail

When you are voting electronically.
There is no need to destroy public record.
They used to tell us that they destroyed the ballets Because they were taking up to much storage space.
IF it is done electronically. One disk would have the hole electron on it.
You could make as many backup copy of it as you want.
There would be the original and many back up copy's.
And the paper trail of my vote.
It's going to be in my shirt pocket.

I posted this to the registration database purges thread, but I'll post it again here in case anyone has 9 hours to kill. Just kidding. It was nine hours but you can certainly just watch bits of it.

I would recommend the expert panel at about 3 hours and 25 minutes into the video. It's real audio media format.

You can watch the experts who traveled from out of state.

* Justin Levitt, Counsel, Brennan Center for Justice at NYU School of Law
* David Becker, Senior Litigation Counsel, People for the American Way
* Tova Wang, Democracy Fellow, The Century Foundation
* Dr. Toby Moore, Project Manager, Center for Democracy and Election Management, American University

Archive 1/25/08 hearing

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This is the wonderful Mexican electoral system that the Rs in Texas are pushing as a good example. After all they have photo ID requirements.

You know I'm going to pass on their customs, I think our election system without photo ID is better than this one. But I am thankful that women like Cruz are standing up to these unjust and ridiculous rules.

Sonia

Tips to Lone Star Project which sent this out today.



Much more of the essay at the link above.

Sonia