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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 03:52 PM
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LULAC sued Texas Democratic Party over primary delegates
http://www.elpasotimes.com/ci_9208303

LULAC sued Texas Democratic Party over primary delegates
By MICHELLE ROBERTS Associated Press Writer
Article Launched: 05/09/2008 02:04:36 PM MDT


SAN ANTONIO—A Latino advocacy group is suing the Texas Democratic Party over the way delegates are being allocated through its complicated primary and caucus system.

LULAC filed a federal voting rights lawsuit in San Antonio, but it is not seeking to stop the seating of Texas delegates for now. LULAC's lawyers said the suit could, however, force a reallocation of the caucus delegates.

Texas allocates its delegates based on a primary and then a caucus.

The caucus is designed to reward loyal Democratic voters, but Attorney Luis Vera Jr. said Latino districts were hurt in the March 4 vote.

Those districts more heavily favored Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 07:04 PM
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1. They weren't complaining in 2004 & 2006
when they had the corner on delegates, why are they bitching now? Oh yeah, they ended up on the losing side because they didn't get their vote out in those years.

dg
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 08:15 AM
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2. Really - look at this part
Texas Democrats distribute the state's 193 delegates using both a primary election and a caucus, but the distribution favors state Senate districts that had high voter turnout in the last presidential and gubernatorial elections.

In the March 4 election, that meant predominantly Hispanic districts, where turnout was low in 2004 and 2006, got fewer delegates than others, particularly urban, predominantly black districts. Latino districts favored Hillary Clinton; black districts favored Barack Obama.

"The manner used to allocate the delegates ... undervalues Latino Democratic voters and does not provide Latino voters with an equal opportunity to participate in the nominating process and to elect candidates of their choice," the lawsuit says.


Tell me how allocating caucus delegates based on prior turnout in 2004 and 2006 undervalues anyone? Just because all of a sudden one area of the state got finally woke up and got themselves to the polls, they are being undervalued. What I think it shows them is that it is important to get out your vote. If you show up, then your strength represents your actual voting strength.

And heck they can look it another way too. In 2010 those areas are going to get a lot more representation because they turned out this year.

While I applaud LULAC for defending Latino rights, they certainly did good work in the re-districting lawsuit at the Supreme Court, this one is a bit of a stretch. It's not like they didn't know about the caucus system. It's been used in Texas for decades.

We'll see if any of the resolutions to alter the caucus process to the convention survive and what changes are made. :shrug:

Sonia
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 10:21 AM
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3. Agreed Sonia
They should have made sure they GOTV back in 2004 & 2006.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-11-08 10:39 PM
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4. There ya are
You gotta get involved FIRST to see how it works.
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