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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 12:22 AM
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Judges orders federal government to wade into aboriginal occupation
CAYUGA, Ont. (CP) - The federal government is facing a judicial order compelling it to become involved in a contentious aboriginal land occupation that Prime Minister Stephen Harper has, so far, washed his hands of.

The emotional and at times violent months-long occupation of a southern Ontario construction site landed in court Thursday where the parties involved submitted suggestions on how the conflict should be resolved.

Ontario Superior Court Justice David Marshall, who in March issued an injunction ordering the aboriginals off the land, heard suggestions ranging from immediate police action to allowing negotiations with the province to continue before deciding to bring the federal government into the discussion.

"I will contact the minister of Indian Affairs, Mr. (Jim) Prentice, and the attorney general of Canada," Marshall told the court before adjourning the proceedings until June 16.

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=e95b6603-a632-4091-ac5c-f7e1c87acae2&k=21752
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:11 AM
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1. It is sad that this is still going on.
I don't understand why the Mohawks are not going through legal channels. There is an established, efficient, and government funded way for them to research and present their case. Blocking the road (I know, they are gone now), just hurts it in my opinion.
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SixStrings Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:41 AM
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2. I live in this area. I have been keeping quiet to see what kind

of responses this site would get. Can't believe it took this long to get a thread going.
I beg everyone to go to this site to get the facts and see the actual documents in question:

www.citizensofcaledonia.ca

On Sunday, May 23/06, a stolen vehicle behind the natives blockade was set on fire. A brick was set on the gas pedal and the car was smashed into a Hydro One sub-station knocking the hydro out for two days for nearly 50,000 people. If you went to CBC's website you would of read about 'an act of vandalism that disrupted the hydro service for approx. 1000 people'. Blatant lies. The hydro was out for approx. 50,000 people from Caledonia, to Port Rowan, all of Simcoe, St. Williams, Jericho, etc. etc. The damage is estimated to be in the 15 million range. Who will pay for this? Who will pay for all the spoiled food? WHo will pay for all the damaged electrical equipment from the hydro flickering on/off? (Ive heard horror stories already...businesses are being ruined, plenty of agricultural equipment has been burned out, etc.) A road was dug up by a backhoe and bridge was damaged as well...
These were blatant acts of domestic terrorism.
The complacency and ineptitude of ALL levels of gov't, including the completely irrelevant and useless OPP, have devalued and made WORTHLESS the laws of this land. What good are laws when only some people have to follow them? I personally will NEVER again pay a ticket or fine. Why should I as a 'white' person have to follow the laws strictly because I am a 'white' person? Face it, if this were a bunch of white people doing this, the blockade would of lasted all of one hour. I am embarrassed to be called a Canadian after this debacle.
Whatever sympathy the Natives had with the people is gone. The relationship will NEVER be repaired in this area. I have spoken with an ex-RCMP officer and basically he said that they know where "99%" of all stolen vehicles end up - Six Nations reserve. Crystal Meth and crack cocaine are epidemic on the reserve to the point that the RCMP and OPP have never seen before. There is nothing they can do. If this were any other race abusing themselves and their children like this the authorities would of stepped in a long time ago. The natives say they are all about 'preserving nature'. The first thing they did was light off tire fires, billowing out huge plumes of black smoke. Once the developer was allowed to look at his houses already built he found stacks of tires in the basement and garbage as if the natives were ready to light them all up at any given time...Hypocrites each and every one of them.
Where was the army? I know what my fellow citizens need to do next time we want something:


We should be violent.
We should break laws.
We should take out the power for all Ontario residents.
We should destroy bridges and roads.
We should set huge tire fires all over Ontario.
We should block traffic.

Of course as we've been shown, the OPP or army won't arrest anyone.

Thank you natives for showing us our errors. Next time, we'll do better.

Here's some food for thought:

If a group of individuals from another nation were to, with intent, stop the supply of necessary supplies (water, power, etc) to people it would typically be viewed in two ways:

1) If it were supported by the country in which the individuals lived, it would be considered an Act of War.

2) If it was not supported by the country in which the individuals lived, it would be considered an Act of Terrorism.

If Non-native people in this country stopped necessary supplies from being delivered to it's recipients, those individuals would be charged with no leniency. Agree or disagree?
Time to get rid of the reserves and assimilate.





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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 07:58 AM
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3. As I said in my first post, there is no excuse for such violent behavior.
All their claims can be rigourously examind by the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development. Hell, they can even sue the Government for the Land or for monetary compensation at no cost to them. Legal and reserach expenditures are provided by the Department.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 12:44 PM
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4. Hear Hear
The Feds dropped the ball bigtime...

I support the Natives' claims BTW--they have a very good argument. I also initially thought that they probably should kick up some dust to get some notice.

But when an agreement was struck and it looked like everything was settled reasonably, it seems there was an outside group (probably the same ones that planted all that fake KKK shit among other things) that had a hidden agenda.

When the power went out, the Feds should have moved in as it could have gone from bad to worst very quickly. It almost seemed like the 'authorities' were waiting for a death to occur to act.

Really quite shameful when compared to the State response at the peaceful activities of the APEC summit protests or even Quebec City and actually quite shameful that Progressives seemed to sit on their hands then regarding the Cretin gov't--I remember being involved and having heard one of the New Dem Cult Apologists actually say that, 'well it would have been worst if the Reform was in power'--but in this situation seem to have found their 'voice' in support of violence and stupidity, simply because they don't like Canadians like the people in Caledonia.

But then again it's Canada, so there are many reactions that seem oddly out of place to the rest of the world--like unwitting Fed support for treason in Quebec. Apparantly unlike the rest of the world, Canada is divisible and open for sale to anyone at anytime. So if the French or Natives are important voting blocks to the Liberals or NDP, then all sense goes out the window and those parties go out of their way to run block for some pretty outrageous demands.

The Canadian Way that there is NO issue that can't be negotiated ultimately and NO priniciple of law or ethics that can't be abandoned for a new position if the need arises.
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