BC - Remember to sign the official No HST petition

arikara

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Wed Apr-21-10 02:19 PM
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BC - Remember to sign the official No HST petition

Locations and info here:

http://fighthst.com/locations/

Be sure to sign the official Elections BC petition for the provincial riding that you are registered to vote in. Any online petitions do not count.

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JBoy

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Wed Apr-21-10 03:47 PM
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1. Actually, I don't have a problem with the HST

It's a more efficient way to collect the PST and GST, and the rest of Canada is moving that way.

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tuvor

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Wed Apr-21-10 05:33 PM
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2. I'm not quite as upset about it as most seem to be.

I don't care for the way the government went about it, and they're doing a lousy job of selling it, but that's another matter.

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JBoy

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Wed Apr-21-10 06:23 PM
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3. The way Vander Zalm is presenting it

it's like "help me defeat the tax, and look at how much money you'll save". No notion of the any fallout from defeating it, like no $1.6 billion grant from the feds that the current BC budget depends on. That means either bigger deficit, reduced spending or higher taxes somewhere else. What's the plan for that, Willie?

Vander Zalm is on an ego trip right now. It's like he's running to be Head Teabagger North.

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tuvor

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Wed Apr-21-10 09:05 PM
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4. What also has driven me nuts about Vander Zalm's sales pitch...

"We're in a recession folks. We were hoping to come out of it."

and

"You don’t introduce a tax on the consumer, particularly in a recession time."

As anyone who's been paying attention knows, Canada emerged from the recession in Q3 of 2009, three quarters ago.

If all the facts are on his side, he shouldn't have to resort to false statements. I'm surprised no one has called him out on that.

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arikara

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Wed Apr-21-10 11:56 PM
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5. Well I hate the idea

of paying more so that corporations can pay less. I never cared for VanderZalm when he was in office but I'm grateful that he took this up. I'm not alone in feeling like this, we held a signing in the community hall on Saturday in our small town and gathered over 1200 signatures in one day. That was more than 10% of the registered voters.

By the way, Campbell never took the 1.6 billion yet. He took 250 mil, plans to take another 250 mil next year and the rest the following year, conveniently happens to be election year. I wonder why he planned it that way? F'ing crook.

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arikara

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Thu Apr-22-10 11:13 AM
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6. And another thing

comparing the 80-90% of the citizens in this province who are angry about the HST to the lunatic teabaggers is just plain offensive.

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JBoy

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Thu Apr-22-10 11:44 AM
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7. I didn't compare HST opponents to teabaggers, I compared Vander Zalm to a teabagger.

Listen to some of the rhetoric he's been using http://www.straight.com/article-299341/vancouver/bill-vander-zalm-fight-against-hst-chance-take-back-democracy-bc :

"The campaign to defeat the HST has ballooned into something much bigger and even more significant than protesting an unjust, illegal, and unethical tax." What's "illegal" about a tax that was voted on and passed by an elected legislature?

"People are rising up to take back their democracy." Take it back from whom? The elected government? Sounds a lot like "I want my country back".

"they are lining up to make this initiative process work for the sake of their freedom...". Need I comment on this gem?

I have no problem with opponents to the HST, and the petition effort. I'm just saying that Vander Zalm is acting and sounding like a teabagger.

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daleo

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Thu Apr-22-10 01:36 PM
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8. You made a lot of good points

His language is over the top. Calling the tax illegal sounds loopy.

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arikara

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Thu Apr-22-10 11:20 PM
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9. What? That's it?

There is no comparison between that and teabaggers. Maybe if he were running around with posters of Campbell's mugshot with a hitler mustache on it you would have something.

The government was elected under false pretenses, if they had told the truth the NDP would be in power now. I have no idea why anyone here would support such a vile neocon government anyhow.

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