Bev Harris talking to Alex Jones right now

Put this into Windows Media Player (File>Open URL): http://sce.m2ktalk.com:8030


She mentioned DU just before the break, can't remember her exact words but she said something about a campaign to discredit her (something like that)

The arrows are poised and the bow strings are taut ...

I adore Bev ... with all her strengths and weaknesses ...

Talking to a conspiracy-mongering crackpot is a funny way of going about it.

....a "conspiracy-mongering crackpot" for questioning the 2004 election results. (I'm assuming you think the result was wrong of course)

that 51% of the voters are idiots.

What we MUST realize in order to win - Americans are stupid and uninformed
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=495887

:eyes:

Sorry, but I'm tired of her trying to make herself the story or whine about people or groups out to get her...

If she wants to do good, have her focus on being an investigator of voting fraud and to work nicely with others. And if she can't do that, then my recommendation is that none of us or anyone else bother to listen to her whining or give her face time.

I gave her money, supported her, but I am tired of Bev the story...and she's mostly to blame for making herself that.

We have more important things to foucs on - like the recount in Ohio and the issues of BBV....not Bev....Let some Psychotherapist help her with that one...

I also think its pretty pathetic if she is in fact complaining about the DU...the DU was pretty darn good to her and she had a lot of support...she is only doing herself more and more harm daily by chiseling away at any remaining good will...

I'm tired of it and her....

to her criticisms of the Clinton Curtis story, and she says she likes Brad's work.

She is concerned about the Madsen story, because IF it hits the mainstream and IF it is discredited, then it will be used by the mainstream to dismiss any future evidence of election fraud.

Edit: Note, I did not hear what she said about DU.

who is alex Jones?
Is he from DU?

....he's a radio talk show host from Texas. He runs www.Infowars.com and a few other websites.

I did not know about him.....now i do
wish i would have caught the beginning of this show.
is it archived?

This where the right meets the left a lot. He only comes on an hour here, but one of his main themes is how there was a planed 9/11 and how it's being used to screw everybody in general.

For most part his assumptions and predictions have been panning out quite regularly.

Somewhere there in the great middle we all might find a place to agree. If you get past rhetoric into the hard facts he presents it might be pretty :scared:

I'm fascinated by how often the right and the left come together in our distaste for anything that smacks of Big Brother, the military-industrial complex, the erosion of civil liberties, etc.

I'm a tin-foil mad hatter from all the way back since I was a kid reading 1984 and Brave New World. To me, the idea of an elite (relative) few shaping world events to maintain and expand their power and wealth is simply a logical conclusion to draw.

When it comes to determining which "side" the parapolitcal pundits come down on, it can be tough. Rense talks about the evil of Zionism...to the extent that it appears anti-Semitic to me. I know AJ and Rense are buddies, so does that make AJ anti-Semitic, too? And if they are, does that mean all the stuff they talk about is BS?

In the end, I think you can examine who they blame. If they think it's Zionism or Israel controlling everything, they're probably right wingers in many ways, although they're just as likely to be non-Larouchian or Larouchian libertarians (two distinct philosophies, it seems to me).

If they blame corporations, the greed of the wealthy, the religious zealots, etc., then they're probably lefties. I'm influenced heavily by Marxism. AJ, Rense, and others may be as well, even though I'm sure the very idea would be anathema to them.

In my mind, the controlling elite are composed of wealthy, powerful folks from all over the globe of all races and religions, although I think that they would be religious in name only, using it only to gain an advantage, somewhat like Karl Rove. Their interest is in self-preservation, which requires long-term thinking and cooperation... and sometimes conflict. I think the CIA stuff going on now is a result of that kind of conflict, but we'll never know what's really going on behind the scenes, since we're not members of the controlling elite (and if you are a member, what the heck are you doing here? Don't you have minions to do this for you?). I further believe that these people are sort of "super sociopaths," meaning that manipulation of the masses comes easy to them emotionally because they have no moral compass.

OK, I'll get off my lectern. I just don't know how much most DUers have thought about parapolitics until the election fiasco(s). If you're trying to find out more about how the world really works, you need to have a bit of a map, or you could end up heading down lots of blind alleys. Keep your wits about you as you explore.

Further thoughts, anyone? :tinfoilhat:

Wherever foil is being fashioned into headgear, Alex Jones is not far away.

without any help from us!

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I don't have any credibility.

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It started with your uninformed comments of Bev Harris. So the two people involved are Bev and at your eagerness, you.

Whats a good Bev flame without my 2 cents.

Bev and Brad discussing this story on Alex Jones show about how effective Bev has been as a BBV spokeperson.

Despite what her supporters think.

A used car salesmen could have done a better job getting the word to the masses than this self proclaimed PR Queen.


I nominate Susan Truitt

co-founder

Citizens Alliance for Secure Elections Ohio

She was powerful and very presentable at the Conyers hearing.

No Smoke No Mirrors No Cloak and dagger...just raw emotion and FACT presented with CLASS

Alex was saying he believes Curtis is credible because Curtis before all this with the affidavit and all went to the FBI, CIA, and all before he came out with this. And that to Alex tells him that Curtis is credible. Well, Bev while Alex was saying this cut in and tried to say Curtis went to the FBI because of some other stuff and not...Alex cut in and set her straight.

I have not seen anybody giving credit around (especially here, where credit was not DUe(. Yea, that's a good idea, we will get credit from some place called the underground :crazy:

I did donated to her cause but only to help others find out the truth. I have seen a few people go off the deep end (including myself).

People should give her some space to sort things out in her head. After all, really , can you ask yourself have you ever heard of anybody being discredited by the underground?

Jus some fun with puns

P.s I am not a troll, I just post stupid stuff that's not worth reading :D

so thanks for alerting us...it was at least somewhat interesting.

BTW...the stuff she said about her BBV.org forums, with someone else posting as "BevHarris"...the thing is, anyone can post as anyone there if you don't log in. She recently did a bunch of forum cleanup herself, zapping an unnoficial general forum and replacing it with five new official ones. Some of us even posted as "BevHarris" in the unofficial forum to demonstrate the problem with impersonation, so it's hard to tell if she's talking about that or about an actual compromise of her own password-protected identity.

Once people started posting in the new forums, someone was removing any posts that didn't toe the "BBV.org party line." The forums haven't been "cleaned up" for a few days now, but we'll see what happens.

(edit: fixed typo)

I found it very interesting. Why do you say it's a waste?

http://www.m2ktalk.net/Archives/infowars.htm

...but it's subscription only. IMHO, worth it.

Alex Jones is passionate and often called a crackpot, but if you listen to him enough you can see what a true patriot he really is. He's just usually so far ahead of the curve in terms of catching stories early, that he seems off in left field.

Listen to him and make your own opinion.