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The GOP's Shameful Vote Strategy
By Harold Meyerson
The Washington Post

Wednesday 27 October 2004

With Election Day almost upon us, it's not clear whether President Bush is running a campaign or plotting a coup d'etat. By all accounts, Republicans are spending these last precious days devoting nearly as much energy to suppressing the Democratic vote as they are to mobilizing their own.

Continued http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102804Y.shtml

no matter what any human says or does it will not stop this war machine. All of our rights have been taken away from us. we have lost our 14th amendment right to vote. it is obvious that the elections are rigged. I don't even think that the politishans care. I think they are perfectly happy to shread our constitution infront of us and there is nothing that any caring compassionant human can do about it.

Here is what is going on. they are using the devide and conqure method to conqure the entire world population. It dosn't matter who we vote for, and it never did. The machines with out paper trails are what the hackers are using to control everything. the government will never let an election reform bill pass. they will keep using a computer to steal our voice forever. here is how I know this.

John Kerry won the election. the 14th amendment of the constitution clearly states that if a portion of the population is disenfranchised, each state will have it's electorate reduced proporshunante to the amount of disenfranchisement. This applies to all 50 states. The People who have been disenfranchised is any one who used a paperless voting machine. the people who used machines that had a paper trail could have their votes recounted if
nessasary. The people who used Paperless machines could not have their votes recounted. Once the data is uploaded to the central tabulator, it is gone. there is just a select few people in control of the central tabulator. they have the liberty to decide the fate of every election. Im talking Presidential, Senete, the house of representatives, the govenors, even the mayors. in essance two or three people have taken the 14th amendment right to vote from the entire Human population.

If kerry had any balls at all this is the argument he would use.

The Senator contends that the use of DRE voting without an auditable paper record recording the intent of the voter denies these voters the right to vote and violates Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution and standards for fair and transparent elections. According to Section Two of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution, the Senator argues that the representation for the states using DRE voting without auditable paper records be reduced by the proportion of the population of these states.

*Using the proportion of counties using DRE voting (given by
http://www.thestandard.com/movabletype/datadigest/archives/000499.php),
rounding up to the nearest whole number, disqualifies the following numbers of electoral votes for the following states:

Alabama, 1;
Arkansas, 1;
Colorado, 1;
Delaware, 3;
Florida, 7;
Georgia, 15;
Indiana, 6;
Iowa, 2;
Kansas, 1;
Kentucky, 8;
Louisiana, 2;
Maryland, 10;
Michigan, 1;
Mississippi, 1;
New Jersey, 12;
New Mexico, 5;
North Carolina, 6;
Ohio, 2;
Pennsylvania, 3;
South Carolina, 7;
Tennessee, 6;
Texas, 2;
Virginia, 5;
West Virgina, 1;
Wyoming, 1

Note that California voters in counties using DRE voting had the right to alternatively use paper ballots. Since this does not deny any voters the right to have their votes counted, California retains all of its 55 electoral votes.

This disqualification of electoral votes reduces the total of qualified electoral votes by 109, leaving a total number of qualified electoral votes of 429. This number reduces the majority to 215 electoral votes.

Therefore, the presidential candidates receive the following qualified electoral votes:

Bush/Cheney... AL, 8; AK, 3; AZ, 10; AR, 5; CO, 8; FL, 20; ID, 4; IN, 5; IA,
5; KS, 5; LA, 7; MS, 5; MO, 11; MT, 3; NE, 5; NV, 5; NC, 9; ND, 3; OH, 18;
OK, 7; SC, 1; SD, 3; TN, 5; TX, 32; UT, 5; VA, 8; WV, 4; WY, 2

Kerry/Edwards... CA, 55; CT, 7; DC, 3; HI, 4; IL, 21; ME, 4; MA, 12; MI, 16;
MN, 10; NH, 4; NJ, 3; NY, 31; OR, 7; PA, 18; RI, 4; VT, 3; WA, 11; WI, 10

Thusly counted, the electoral college gives Bush/Cheney 206 electoral votes and gives Kerry/Edwards 223 electoral votes, giving Kerry/Edwards a majority and the presidency of the United States.

* The proportion of counties using DRE voting without a paper record to the total counties of each state does not necessarily reflect the true proportion of denied voters, but lacking data for the total votes cast for each state with DRE voting I had no alternative. I would suggest that using the actual proportion of votes cast with DRE to the total votes cast in each state for disqualifying electoral votes would result in the same winner.

My calculations were correct. If the representation in Congress falls, so do the number of electoral votes, according to Article Two, Section One.

"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress..."
(emphasis added)


"But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state."


COMMON SENSE would tell you that equal protection means having all votes counted. BUT in Bush v. Gore the SC twisted the notion to suit its purposes just to install dubya in office. As Scalia bizarrely interpreted equal protection, it means having all votes counted in the same way with the same standards. It seems to me that Bush v. Gore actually supports your case since there are different standards for counting electronic votes and paper ballots.


The DRE machines without paper trails, when combined with the easily
compromised tabulation software, makes auditing the vote impossible. If you can't verify the votes when irregularities show problems with the tally, this effectively denies the right to vote of the portion of the population forced to use these machines. To this fact there is no argument.

Section Two of The Fourteenth Amendment is clear. Section One of Article Two of the Constitution is clear...

"...Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be
entitled in the Congress..."

The Senate of the new Congress will count the votes. The DRE machines make a true count impossible, thereby effectively denying citizens of their right to vote. We haven't even figured in disproportionate number of voting machines, "lost" voter registrations, surreptitiously denied absentee ballots, voting place misdirection and a whole slew of other well-documented dirty tricks favoring the incumbent. Therefore, this situations changes the representation entitled to the States in the new Congress. Of course, I can't speak for the process by which the Congress would depose Representatives or how long this would take. However, the situation does change the number of electoral votes entitled to each State in this election.

I admit this is all a legal quagmire, but it has (constitutionally) legal merit. It also avoids issues involved in a recount which the DRE machines make impossible.

Would it fly? I don't know. I imagine it would cause quite the scene. Could the threat of losing seats lead the States to rectify obvious problems in the electoral process? Could the threat of giving up seats lead Senators and Representatives to pressure Pres. Bush to concede?

Difficulties aside, could this scenario offer the only true means for saving Democracy? You decide.



Please see full descussion here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=77190&mesg_id=77190

If Kerry does not jump on this issue, and use it to spear head election reform, we the Humans will never again have the right to vote. because the Main Stream Media is controlled by the Government, they do every thing they can to hide this information. they sing the population to sleep with stories of Scott Peterson, or a pupy down a well. they will never admit that they took our rights from us.

Arnold will be president in 08 and no matter how any one votes it will not matter. Arnold will continue Bushes paturn of global domination. he will continue droping bombs on defensless populations. the perpetual war will never stop.

Humans will never be able to truly explore their universe and science if we keep pumping our money into killing people. If there was ever an issue that needed to be on any ballot for any human to vote on, we need to have the right to vote yes or no on war.

Now you tell me, should I give up? should I forget this information?
should I accept the Machine as my ruler? I have figured out how to break their little game. Eection reform is the only way to get our voice back but they won't let us talk about it.

EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE - Portion of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that prohibits discrimination by state government
institu~tions. The clause grants all people "equal protection of the laws," which means that the states must apply the law equally and cannot give preference to one person or class of persons over another.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/e027.htm

The Words of Dr. Martin L. King Jr.


I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed; we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal.

I have a dream,

that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.

I have a dream,

that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.

I have a dream,

that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification; one day right down in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.

I have a dream today!

I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain and the crooked places will be made straight and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together.

The words of Dr. Martin L. King Jr.
for full text: http://www.toptags.com/aama/voices/speeches/speech1.htm

If we the Humans don't stand up now for election reform, this computer may control us forever. Should I give up????

This is the scope of what we are dealing with is it a battle that we can ever win? Do you ever want to have Kids? that is what this is about. I want our children to have a voice. I want our children to have an education. I don't want our children to be forced to kill Humans. if the elections are not reformed I don't want to bring children into this world at all. I suspect that there are a lot of people who feel this way.

This is why the administration is spending 3.5 million dollors to teach Abstenance only sex ed. this is why they are trying to outlaw abortion. this is why they are trying to out law homosexuality. They are farming us. farming fresh bodys to drive their war machine. this is why they produce violent video games they are programing our children to kill each other.

Should I give up??? Now that I have finally opened my eyes and Witnessed reality first hand should I give up????? You say the word, and I will forget this issue, but don't expect me to ever want children. I am sorry that this is the way I feel, but I can't bare the thought that my children will be slaves just as I am.

Well explained!

and I sense your angst.

Last night on the Malloy show, AAR, a caller called in, obviously a young man, wanting to know where the leaders were in this vote counting.

Malloy, polite as usual toward his callers, said to him that

look, We older folks are getting old. Our legs hurt. We are growing crooked fingers and crooked spines, and we cannot walk five miles in a day without taking a rest several times, although there are some brave souls who give it all they got.

It is up to the younger folk to protest the fascism of George Bush, and to get something going, because we older folk do not have the energy we once had, which is a natural thing as one becomes older.

Stand up and organize, all you young folk. It DOES hinge upon YOU to get the ball rolling.

Locomotive barreling down on you, and you can't get out of the way. Everyone knew that the Bush Cartel was going to rape Ohio, and yet it couldn't be stopped.......