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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:38 PM
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Election night results found on Triad web server!
Edited on Wed Dec-15-04 11:48 PM by pointsoflight
Did see this here, sorry if it's a dupe.

Why the heck would Triad need vote totals as they're coming in on election night, and what purpose would it serve to post these?

More suspicious activity!

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Triad left unofficial Ohio results on website

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

Triad Governmental Systems, the firm accused by a county employee of tampering with tabulating machines and attempting to plant false information into the Ohio recount, left some unofficial results publicly available on their website, RAW STORY has learned.

The firm left the unofficial results of at least two counties – Lorain and Madison – available as text files on their corporate website. Both counties show “unofficial cumulative results” from the eleven p.m. to one a.m. hour on Election Day and Nov. 3.

The votes at those times closely correlate with the final reported results.

When told of the results, a Triad spokesman paused for several seconds before responding. The spokesman declined to give his name.

“Generally the only purpose of that on election night is that counties used to get inundated with calls,” he said. If someone calls, he said, “they say just look at the website and you’ll see what the unofficial count is.”

But the spokesman declined to answer why the unofficial results was posted on the firm’s website. When pressed, he hung up, saying, “have a nice day.”

(continued)

http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=496
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imaginary girl Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-15-04 11:50 PM
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1. Perhaps they're accessing the information while messing with the machines?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:11 AM
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2. I'd have a bleedin' nice day if someone would just tell the truth
"Ohio’s Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell also posted unofficial results on Election Day and the days following the election on the state’s website. This is the only known incident of a private firm publishing unofficial Ohio results on their own site.

Triad also posted official election results in their root IP domain 66.241.236.181 dated in various days in November and December for the Ohio counties of Ashtabula, Brown, Clinton, Darke, Greene, Preble and Union."

WHY?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:35 AM
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3. fekking disgusting!!!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 12:52 AM
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4. I'll tell you what this is! And I smell smoke
:wow:It was posted a few days ago, that the networks were in a tizzy between 11:01pm Nov, 2 to 1:00am Nov. 3, 2004, because the computer network with that data "went down," so they had to "adjust the data" when they brought the computers back up.

:bounce:I think I saw that here on DU a few days ago. I can't do a search.

Somebody do a search for that. "Exit polls down 11pm - 1am" :nuke:
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:48 AM
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7. Exactly what I was thinking
This is, in fact, the timeframe of the reported problem when Mitofsky's computer "crashed" and the results were not able to be updated. HONK!
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:00 AM
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8. Hold on there!
I read Dr. Freeman's paper.... I don't have a link anymore since I saved it on my computer, but he says

These data were reportedly not meant to be released directly to the public, and were reportedly available to late evening Election Night viewers only because a computer glitch prevented NEP from making updates sometime around 8:30 p.m. that night.

(8:30? Maybe he meant 8:30 Pacific?? But he's in PA, doesn't make sense. Are you sure it was 11:00?)

Then, on page 5, he has a graphic of a screenshot.. featuring nice exit poll numbers for Ohio giving the state to Kerry :) Time on it is 12:21 a.m. Nov. 3.

I'm not sure WHAT this all means, but I get the feeling that it does tie together somehow. I just can't quite grasp the connection. I need to sleep on it.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:25 AM
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10. It was Harmonyguys post. I think
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jamboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 01:18 AM
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5. hmmm... n/t
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 02:45 AM
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6. kick n/t
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:17 AM
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9. WaPo: 11 p.m. until 1:33 a.m.
Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 03:31 AM by Carolab
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23580-2004Nov3.html

"To compound the problem further, a server at Edison/Mitofsky malfunctioned shortly before 11 p.m. The glitch prevented access to any exit poll results until technicians got a backup system operational at 1:33 a.m. yesterday.

The crash occurred barely minutes before the consortium was to update its exit polling with the results of later interviewing that found Bush with a one-point lead. Instead, journalists were left relying on preliminary exit poll results released at 8:15 p.m., which still showed Kerry ahead by three percentage points."


Same time zone?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:26 AM
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11. Good Catch
I figure, they had to store the incoming data on somebody's server, why not their own? Wouldn't want to LOSE DATA:silly: :puke:
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:33 AM
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12. It's late, and I don't get it.
So what the results were posted, unless it's the obvious fact that Triad should not be posting any results at all?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 03:39 AM
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13. Odd because it was never done before
and because the timeframe happens to coincide with the "crash" of the exit polling company's computer on election night--after which * shot up and exit poll numbers "mysteriously matched" the "final numbers".
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EMunster Donating Member (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 06:26 AM
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14. kick
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harmonyguy Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-16-04 11:03 AM
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15. They may be quite innocent on this one....
As much as there apparently are affidavits describing actions that are suspected to be wrongdoing, the posting of unofficial results on a company's web-server is not unusual - and contrary to some opinions expressed here, has been done before.

Triad GSI appears to also own/control a service called Elections on the Net (www.electionsonthe.net) which provides the posting of election results for a number of counties, presumably for those jurisdictions who choose to not publish on their own sites, or those that don't have their own sites.

They aren't the ONLY ones doing it. Both Fidlar (www.fidlar.com/results) and ES&S (www.essvote.com/results -currently down, also stephenson.co.il.essvote.com) do the same thing, and I'm aware of at least one other company in Florida that provides the service (can't remember the name off-hand)

Not saying it's right/wrong/indifferent, but it has been going on for a while, and, in and of itself, would not appear to be anything nefarious.

HG





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