Washington Recount update - Democratic Underground

ReneB

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Thu Dec-16-04 06:18 PM
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Washington Recount update

http://vote.wa.gov/general/recount_resultsbycounty.aspx

Christine Gregoire(D) +321
Dino Rossi(R) +353

some hours ago the "margin" was about ~80.. seems like Snohomish County was a big gain for Gregoire :]

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bluestateguy

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Thu Dec-16-04 06:19 PM
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1. Are they also recounting presidential votes?

Or only gubernatorial votes?

Another 6 thousand votes and Kerry will have 59,000,000.

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Matariki

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Thu Dec-16-04 06:20 PM
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2. only the govenor race

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burn the bush

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Thu Dec-16-04 09:58 PM
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16. hmmm, i wonder if anyone came in to calibrate the machines to get only the

gov totals to show?

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txindy

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:28 PM
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20. Now that's an excellent question

I'll bet the answer is, "No."

What are they hiding?

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confusa

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Thu Dec-16-04 06:33 PM
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3. And King county is still to come

King is Seattle, with the vote within 30 and King hasn't even been counted, Rossi is doomed.

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TheFarseer

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Thu Dec-16-04 07:13 PM
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6. Remember when we were saying that about Cayahoga

on election night? I'll believe it when I see it.

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IAMREALITY

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Thu Dec-16-04 06:35 PM
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4. Great! And the repubs all pissed off going to court to sue

over King County is just gravy! They are pissed, they are gonna lose that court battle, the ballots will count, and they will lose to Gregoire!

WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!

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pbartch

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:36 PM
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13. JUST HEARD ON KOIN (CBC) that the Repiglicans

are gonna sue tomorrow over King.

Hubby and I laffffffffed

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Straight Shooter

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:13 PM
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19. Do you think Hannity will scream at them, "GET OVER IT!! YOU LOST!!"

Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 11:15 PM by Straight Shooter

Like he screamed at Cliff Arnebeck during the interview?

edit: I mean after the recount ;)

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skids

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Thu Dec-16-04 07:11 PM
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5. Nice!

This is really signifigant. One more break like that in either of the other two counties before King, and Gregoire could win this without King. That would really take the wind out of Rossi's complaints.

What a great and unexpected surprise (though we knew something was up in Snohomish due to a few precincts with >100% turnout. Anyone got a p-by-p of the final count there? Did that get fixed?)

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lonestarnot

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Thu Dec-16-04 07:20 PM
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7. Keep count'n biatches...we need a dem gov. in Washington!

Count 'em!

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merwin

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Thu Dec-16-04 07:34 PM
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8. SOMEONE needs to yell about this one! They were paperless electronic!

Snohomish county added about 200 votes to the total from the recount? How the hell could that possibly happen?

Snohomish county (if I remember correctly) was 100% electronic voting with no paper trail. All they did for the hand recount was print out copies of the results and count those. There's no way in hell that could happen unless the software has a flaw that either is supressing votes on the non-printed total, or printing out extra ballots. Somehow I believe the supression.

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keepthemhonest

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:12 PM
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10. good catch

keep you eyes on them.keep pointing it oout to many different threads and people. sometimes things gt missed here

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merwin

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Thu Dec-16-04 07:34 PM
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9. <deleted>

Edited on Thu Dec-16-04 07:35 PM by merwin

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EFerrari

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:15 PM
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11. So surprised the recount hasn't been foiled somehow. Awesome.

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Gothmog

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:23 PM
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12. Count every vote

There will be litiation over the King county votes. I hope that we can pull this election out.

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suffragette

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:47 PM
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14. snohomish

Interesting about a gain in Snohomish. I remember as I was watching returns on Nov 2nd that a voter from there was telling a reporter that she selected Kerry, but Bush's name kept coming up instead. That was the first (but obviously not the last) time I heard that brought up.
Looks like some of that might be getting corrected now that people are looking closely.

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drummer55

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Thu Dec-16-04 08:51 PM
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15. Hand Counts

should be done always.

machines have a normal error rate even in the best of circumstances

1 in every 10,000 ovals for one companies machines http://www.skagitvalleyherald.com/articles/2004/12/02/news/news02.txt

If you have 4 choices for governor thats an error rate of
1 out 2500.

We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert. -- J. Robert Oppenheimer

www.actionspeaksportland.org

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bemis12

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Thu Dec-16-04 10:04 PM
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17. That's awesome

It's a win we're likely to get, and sorely needed after having our asses handed to us in the Presidential race, and the House and the Senate. Finally a breakeven!

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txindy

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:34 PM
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22. An interesting way to talk about fraud, that

"Having our asses handed to us in the Presidential race, and the House and the Senate." If you intend that to mean we were defrauded out of the true vote counts and subsequent wins in the presidential race and some congressional seats, then you're right. If not, you're not.

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:01 PM
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18. extrapolate this

I know, I know, extrapolation is wrong. So sue me.
Here goes.

Take X's gained votes, multiply by original total, divide by new total so far. This gives an extrapolation to the number of votes we can expect
each candidate to get after the remaining counties are tallied.

X= Gregoire, get 698
Y= Rossi, get 639 after rounding.

This is a difference of 59, which would mean Gregoire would win by 17
instead of losing by 42......

NB this doesn't include the 500+ unexamined ballots.

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skids

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:33 PM
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21. Yeah but...

I noted this yesterday in another thread. But only half of the counties
are coming up with proportional results. So really it's a craps shoot.

BTW, that in that other thread I've posted a list of which technology is in use in each county, if it hasn't been pushed into the archives by the Bev versus Randi threads.

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floridadem30

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Thu Dec-16-04 11:34 PM
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23. Thanks for the update

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