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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:58 PM Original message |
The DUMBEST Argument About Fraud... |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. here here! |
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JaneDoughnut (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. OK, I'll take my spanking |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
67. I agree with this approach. Just can't... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Can we tack this thread to the top of the forum? It's so basic, and so |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Absolutely True |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. That argument never fails to crack me up |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 PM Original message |
No, what we're saying is |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. You worry about that, then |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. But it's the most of it |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. You believe what you like |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I'll believe what I like indeed, |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
41. And how will you get election reform? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. But I believe there was fraud. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
82. No, it's insane to ignore reality |
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roseBudd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. And a corked bat does not change a players stats RIGHT! |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:04 PM Original message |
You're right -- |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. "Not enough" ---- another take |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. If I had charged him with first-degree murder, |
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cyberpj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Aha - so we continue to say investigating fraud - |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I've got no problem with that. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Or how about the SEC.... |
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politicaholic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Hold on...Ukrain gets a new election as result of suspected fraud! |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. So if you believe that there were irregularities, |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Not dumb, but not very honest either |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:16 PM Original message |
Well documented individual cases. |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
25. Massive disinfranchisement of voters... |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. I'm not fucking accepting it. |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. But we do have enough fucking ammo! |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. If we had enough ammunition, |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Sorry, you just don't get it. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Not at all. First of all, I want proof of election fraud not |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. And what I'm saying is this... |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Well said. The crux of the issue is we SHOULD know. nt |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
79. Innocent until PROVED guilty = Prove there wasn't fraud! |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. Everyone needs to be clear on what we have here, too. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
10. Smart voter, you are. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Here, I'll show you how I can say that. |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. But where's the audit? Where's the investigation? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
54. Not proof before investigation. |
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gulogulo (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
11. Why don't you prove there was fraud - you personally can do it |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. You're sure fond of this post since you've put it in multiple threads |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Deleted message |
pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Actually, it's happening in Florida, too. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. They're already there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Who paid for this recount? Who is observing it? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I'm not resisting anything |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Because, right now, Ohio is our focus |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Fine |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Deleted message |
txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Glad to see you're open-minded |
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davidgmills (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
72. You try it yourself |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. If anyone went to the trouble of |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Sorry, but |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. They didn't... |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Look, they won the popular vote. |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Deal with reality... |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Odd, that's just what I was about to tell you. |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Wrong! |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Wrong? Hmm. |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Franken and Moore don't speak on my name |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. I'll add Kerry's name to it too. Who has credentials that you like? |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
44. Evidence is being suppressed |
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pointsoflight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. It's now less than 3 million and shrinking, by the way. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Well, since the Dems had a massive |
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Career Prole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Absolutely! Try cheating on your taxes and defend yourself by saying |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
28. In effect, they're taking |
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wlubin (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. All you need is one piece of evidence that the eletronic paperless |
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thanatonautos (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
65. Having a little bit of fraud is like being a little bit pregnant. n/t |
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Kellis (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 05:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. exactly |
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MarkusQ (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
69. Here's a DUMMER argument: |
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Higans (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:12 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. here is the dumbest argument: |
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davidgmills (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. Re-exit poll Ohio Now |
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buzzard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Problem is exit polls can only be conducted once voters have exited the |
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AllegroRondo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Its illegal either way |
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AndrewClarke (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-23-04 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
73. The margin in the Ukraine was 871,402 votes . . . |
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smartvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Hey! We already know that math doesn't count in elections. nt |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
76. The Most Commonly Cited By the GOP Is "They All Do It"... |
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genieroze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
77. Here is a famous dumb argument |
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hereinmissouri (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
80. Suppressed voters not included in exit polls |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
81. What evidence do you have that there was fraud? |
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hereinmissouri (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 12:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Matter of time |
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