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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:42 PM
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The gig is up, the machines are going down and Conyers is the
hero of our day for bringing them down. After all of this is over the machines that brought the last 3 major elections, 2000, 2002 and 2004, will be history; a glitch in our consciousness. We will look back and wonder why it took so long and three stolen elections to fix it. But, it will be fixed this time as too many people are on to the fraud. IT WILL BE FIXED this time and Bush is going to fall before his term is up. It will not be pretty. The world is against him. He cannot survive. The silence is too telling from the major players, Moore, Kerry, Edwards Jackson etc... Bye bye Bush, see ya.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:44 PM
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1. I Believe
Thanks rainy :hi:

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Blue Christmas Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:54 PM
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9. despite your username...
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 06:56 PM by Blue Christmas
you sure do have a sunny outlook! I, for one, appreciate it. Keep hope alive! :-)

edit: oops! I meant to reply to the original message. I suck at message boards, it seems... ;-)
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:55 PM
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10. Hey seito and rainy
you got it.It will happen,rest assured.


:bounce:
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:44 PM
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2. Yeah right
Kerry rolled over in 5 seconds. Nobody wants to see Bush fall more than I do, but from what I've seen there ain't much to get excited about. Unless you know something we don't, of course.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:49 PM
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4. You mean, unless Kerry, et. al. know something, right? n/t
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:52 PM
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7. If anyone, anywhere knows anything
that the MSM will pick up on, then yes that would be nice. Unfortunately that hasn't happened and doesn't seem likely to.

:tinfoilhat:
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:03 PM
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16. Do you think it possible the last thing they'd do is tell us upfront?
We can/should rally/research/etc. but beyond that, this is not an audience participation game show. It's a legal case.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:51 PM
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5. Stealth baby stealth, sure and steady undercover operation
I do believe!!!!!!! Help is on the way!
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:32 PM
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24. Just Sighted!
The Kerry Edwards F 25 Thunder Jet. Yes, people it is on the runway! Fasten down those tin foil hats!

"This Pilot Kerry, do you read me bomber John?"

"Loud and clear. We are locked and loaded and to Rock n' fucking roll"

"Outstanding, John. We are at mach 2.5 flying low under the repug radar. Target
in sight."

"Roger that John K, thermonuclear rove seeking bomb set for max rove blast."

"F-25 Thunder Jet this John C on the ground. Are you reading me?"

"Loud n Clear."

"Outstanding I will bring you Johns in. Delta Jan. 06 2005 Vector Vote fraud."

"Thanks Capt. Conyers. We are closing in on target. We expect some heavy fox
flack but our aim is true. We are following your commands. Bring us Home."



And who said us libs hate the military? :kick:
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:13 PM
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33. Yes ! Bring us Home.
"Bring us Home."

Bring us our rightfully elected President and Vice President!
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Left coast liberal Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:21 PM
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38. Right on, Rainy! Stealth is key, attack dogs go straight for the
throat.

They will present the case for Fraud when it is air tight and they are aren't going to F$%&@ it up but blabbing premature.

Hold on tight folks, it's going to be a week to remember!

And, keep those calls, e-mails, faxes going!

Cheers!
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:48 PM
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3. Oh! I am hoping and praying!
I soooooooooo want to believe....Have you got any inside scoop, rainy??;)
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:58 PM
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14. Well, I just have been following the info about the machines for
a long time. Looking at Georgia and the Max Cleland story and all who must know that the Florida election was stolen it is too evident that things must change. We are not so stupid as to allow this to continue for another election. This was the year and all who are participating must know it is now or never. I have complete faith that this is the beginning of the end for those machines and blatant election fraud.
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:17 PM
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20. Plus, I watched the Conyers hearings and there are too many
people aware to let this go this time.
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StephanieMarie Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:51 PM
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6. And Kerry will award Conyers the Medal of Freedom !!!!! n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:38 PM
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26. It will be like the end of the first Star Wars movie
when the good guys win and Princess Leah gives Hans Solo his medal.

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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:53 PM
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8. BITT 92756
AKA "Bush Is Toast" Thread number 92,756.

The first 92,755 weren't correct, and I doubt this one is either.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:57 PM
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12. lol
But I still look forward to 92,757 :)
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:57 PM
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11. Goodness, Rainy...
...nobody wants this to be true more than the hundreds of whiny naysayers that are boiling out of the plumbing like a flood of sewer roaches on steroids right now do, but we must listen to them and abandon all hope, because, well, um, because they say so, and we'll just see that they're right.

:eyes:

"Party on, Garth!" :headbang:
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:57 PM
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13. the magic is in the power of the message!
thanks for the positive energy...B-)



WHAT ARE THEY HIDING????:think: :think: :think: :think:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:03 PM
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17. great perk-up. thanks
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dreamcollector Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:02 PM
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15. THINK ABOUT IT
Wasn't it obvious that Bush and Rove would commit fraud in 2004 after what they got away with in 2002 and 2002? How stupid do you think your Democratic politicians are? Why on earth would they do a Gore after what happened to Gore? I think the minute they knew the fix was in their game plan was to quickly concede to get the corporate press and the Rove camp off their backs. Kerry looks presidential. They gather the evidence ( and I'll betcha they have plenty of it-- whistle-blowers and the lot-- why show their hand till they are darn good and ready? Then WHAMO! They pull the rug out and the fraud hits the front pages of the msm with the force of an explosion. Can't hush it up and they are all organized and the Rove camp is off guard. The most telling evidence of this is the silence. Especially of Jess Jackson/Al Sharpton. Believe it the trap is set to go off. "Tar baby ain't sayin' nuthin ----- AND BR'ER FOX HE LAY LOW" Why do you people think they should show their hand prior to January 6th. The element of surprise would be lost. Why do you think their silence is a sign they don't intend to fight? Canadian observer.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:10 PM
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19. Yup, you said it!
I'm just picturing kkkRove whopping the tar baby with one hand, and getting stuck and all covered with tar. LOL! But, seriously you should stop with the Br'er Fox analogy... that comes from an era that was so sad, much too much prejudice.

And hey, a BIG thxs to Canada for coming out en mass to protest *co, several weeks ago when he visited your beautiful homeland. The pictures really inspired me!
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dreamcollector Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:30 PM
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22. Sorry about the Br'er fox bit
I thought about it but couldn't resist cuz my impression is that the only real defenders of Democracy in America are black and ultimately they will be your salvation. Well maybe not the only but the best. The American blacks are your countries richest asset. I don't know why any of them went back after they escaped here on the underground railroad. Guess they didn't like the weather. Oh well. We still have some black communities that are from way back. Especially in the East. As for the Uncle Remus stories--- were they written by a white person? Maybe I should google it.
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dreamcollector Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:41 PM
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27. Hey, no need to thank Canada we hate him worse than you do
They took a poll and 80% of Canadians HATE (not dislike or disapprove of) Bush. Yup, we hate the bastard. The idiot. The murderous capital punishment loving non-commie-pinko dope sniffing S.O.B. Can't say enough about him. Sheesh. They hate him all over the world.
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:04 PM
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31. Oh, you are soooooo sweet, Canadian. Love ya! n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:30 PM
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39. I think you're exactly right
If John Kerry had acted the same way as Gore did in 2000 (and Gore had no example to follow, so I'm not blaming him), I would've been one of the first to carry on about the stupidity of his 'strategy' - or lack thereof.

I can't help but feel that anyone who would've done in 2004 just as Gore did in 2000 must've been one of those children who just had to put their hand in the fire over and over again to determine that, yes, it really is painful each and every time. :eyes:
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:18 AM
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40. I agree, the silence is telling. We all know Florida was stolen
It has to stop sometime, might as well be now. And now is the moment or never.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:07 PM
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18. It's good to see such energy and enthusium...
here on DU but it's going to take a lot of support from the Congress to bring down the voting machines. It will, actually, take an act of Congress to send the machines to a recyling factory to be melted down and made into new and better voting machines that will fool everybody into believing that they haven't been had.

After all, most of the Republicans are there because of those machines and not too many will bite the hand that feeds them -- so to speak.

If it turns out that this problem will be fixed once and for all, and I pray that it does, then maybe democracy will return. It will take some time and a lot of battles to win before this is accomplished.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:26 PM
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21. I have to say I do find the silence odd......
and hope they all have something HUGE up their collective sleeve.... but it's going to take something CATASTROPHIC for the MSM to stop the blackout on this story.

Even if one senator grows a pair, and we have a whopping two hour "debate". I still don't see anything happening because this is the laziest, cowardly lot of "lawmakers", who are really just living the highlife on our tax money.

The Conyers story isn't going to make the MSM. I'd bet on that in Vegas.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:31 PM
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23. adding on.....
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 07:32 PM by bardgal
I also think EVERYONE ON THE PLANET is so used to the crimes these people committ in broad daylight, that it's just not NEWS anymore. Let's face it. We EXPECT THEM TO DO THIS. So where's the 'news story'?

Don't scream at me that I'm being negative. I'm just so damned exhausted from getting my hopes dashed that the BFEE would end up in prison for their endless crime spree, and nothing has happened.

These people believe they're above the law, and now, apparently, so does everyone else.

Who will arrest them? Who will prosecute? What do you think would actually happen if a judge said they'd take the case? SO WHAT? They've been trying to get Chaney to cough up the info on his secret energy task force, and that took four years to GO NOWHERE.

What do you think they'll do with this? Honestly?

I want to believe........ I really do!!!!
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dreamcollector Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:36 PM
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25. Right around now Rove is saying to Bush
"It's too quiet out there. I don't like it." But seriously if the Dems are quiet and then come out guns blazing with some huge and damning evidence of fraud that's their best chance of getting on the front pages of the msms and staying there. And don't forget Kerry won and lots of people will rise up to support their man.
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bardgal Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:55 PM
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29. I agree....however....
People will support them only if they're AWARE and I really don't see the MSM breaking this blackout.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:38 PM
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34. Juggernaut Awaiting Bleeder Valve
I like your thinking. In all of our speculating about what will happen after the challenge, we've forgotten about the MILLIONS of people (including many Republicans) who voted for Kerry but are unaware of the evidence and lawsuits. When THEY start digging in the dirt, we could see an amazing spike in electoral zeal.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:56 PM
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35. Think about Tsunami II - the good tsunami!
Everybody is on the beach. The mass media are playing Scott Peterson on the radio. No one has a care in the world, apparently. There is no sign of the powerful wave coming. Then, BOOM, with little warning, the power finally takes down the Bush administration. All that is left is a little slime residue.

What is a powerful wave after all but zillions of DROPS OF WATER unified and going in the same direction, one not anticipated?

Buildings, trains, and large trees could not stop the tsunami.

DROPS OF WATER pushing in one direction. Remember that when you feel powerless.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:06 PM
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36. Bigger Than Selma!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:50 PM
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28. I love the way you said that!
I, too, believe that this fight is only going to gain momentum. It may not turn out exactly how we would like, but, with time, it will turn out the way it should. All empires fall, eventually.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:03 PM
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30. Oh, I sure needed this!
Thank you! I do think this will eventually happen, but not as soon as I would like. As for Thursday~ please please please! Some brave Senators, the heroic CBC led by Conyers, some solid, irrefutable evidence and fireworks! So I can see it on my own TV! (I don't have cable or Satellite)
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 09:13 PM
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32. Well, no. See, the Repugs are just ALL-powerful!
And we're too weak. And the Repugs control everything...and they're really sneaky, and smart. Smarter than all of us put together, ya know? All is doom and gloom... All is dark. Nothing we try will ever work...

/sarcasm

Justice always finds a way...sometimes she just takes awhile.

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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:14 PM
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37. Election fraud has hit rock bottom, the only way now is up
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:24 AM
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41. Pity so many of our young soldiers won't be alive to see it.
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:40 AM
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42. I believe
you are dreaming.
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