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nmoliver Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:21 PM
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Maybe that's why Kerry voted for the Iraq invasion ...
and the Patriot Act.

Because he figured that voting against them "wouldn't change the outcome"!

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:23 PM
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1. laughing, ironically. n/t
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:24 PM
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2. why don't you change the outcome
and keep this shit to yourself?
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:25 PM
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4. Go Catwoman!!
:yourock:
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jmc777 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:25 PM
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5. Calm down n/t
:spank:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:28 PM
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9. fucking make me!!!
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jmc777 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:29 PM
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10. Ok....


.....I'll book a flight first thing in the morning! :hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:30 PM
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11. LOLOL!!!!!
I can't even buy a fight!!!! :D
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:24 PM
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3. I don't know wtf Kerry's doing.
He's certainly reminding me of why I didn't support him in the primaries.

He's a nice man, with a fantastic wife and family, he cleaned Bush's clock during the debates...but dang.

I miss Alby Gore.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:45 PM
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18. Call me crazy
:crazy: I think there is a direct correlation between how people interpret Kerry's actions and who they supported during the Primaries.

I will say it again. History will judge John Kerry. Now just does not seem like the most appropriate time to be discussing this. The silent revolution has begun. Now is the time for us, the few concerned citizens, to take back this Democracy.

This is NOT about John Kerry.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:47 PM
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19. Thanks, seito
:yourock:
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:25 PM
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6. Yeah, no time for that now. Too busy dialing. n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:25 PM
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7. You again!
n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:28 PM
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8. Let's not forget that this U.S. president --
-- spitefully ignored the demonstrations and recommendations of our allies in Europe and millions of their citizens and plunged right into the goddam war without so much as a howdydo.

Let's not forget that this Secretary of State lied through his teeth at the U.N. and that this National Security Council acquiesced in the lie.

Singling Kerry out doesn't address the source of the blame. This war, this assault on a sovereign nation resulting in thousands and thousands of Iraqi dead and wounded, was decided on and planned long before that vote ever reached the floor of the U.S. Senate.

Put it where it goes.

It's Bush's war.
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mdb Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:33 PM
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12. Kerry didn't vote for the Iraq war.
He voted for the authority to go to war if need be. This after weighing all options. Which was not done. It's not the same thing as voting for Bush to invade Iraq which was not the vote. He was thinking of the future in regard to a President having this power. His thinking is if he or anyone needs this power it shouldn't be compromised by a vote of "no" for authority to go to war by this vote in the future.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:35 PM
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13. Kerry was also lied to, as was all of us, regarding
reasons, i.e., WMDs, for going to war.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:38 PM
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15. Please. Don't you think he's smart enough to know what Bush was up to?
I along with millions of others who opposed the war did.....
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:36 PM
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14. Kerry isn't joining the "formal protest" but he's supporting
everyone and asking others to do so to.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:42 PM
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17. Thanks Kota
I still hoped he could be here to ease the Kerry bashing here, but I guess not.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:53 PM
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22. The Kerry Bashing is gonna happen
no matter what he does. Thankfully, DU is not representative of the Democratic Party as a whole. I see his letter as very positive. I think that hounding the House and Senate Leaders is a most excellent proposition :evilgrin: I think I will make a sport of it.

I am in for the LONG HARD FIGHT.
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:41 PM
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16. He voted to give the President the authority to go to war, which is quite
different than declaring war.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:55 PM
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25. That is so true and it gets spun
to appear as though Kerry was "for" the war in Iraq. Not to mention the climate back then, close to 9-11. If you didn't support *, you were a traitor.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:51 PM
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20. Why do people want Kerry to get bashed and smeared the way Gore did?
That is exactly what would happen. In fact I bet that Roveco wants Kerry to join the protest because then they would have a target. No senators stood up last year with the black caucus and Gore had fought. Some of them are using Kerry's concession as a reason not to contest, but I don't think they would anyway.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:52 PM
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21. They don't like Kerry
I guess. :(
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:55 PM
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24. I think they've made that pretty clear nt
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 04:54 PM
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23. This post accomplishes nothing
but you already know that - it's why you wrote it. Pathetic.
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