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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:30 AM
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Washington State Republicans want wide discovery for lawsuit
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/PrintStory.pl?document_id=2002150778&zsection_id=2002111777&slug=recount14m&date=20050114

GOP seeks criminal records

By David Postman
Seattle Times chief political reporter


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Yesterday, attorneys for Dino Rossi and the Republican Party asked the State Patrol for an electronic copy of that database, the Washington State Identification System. The list contains more than 1.2 million records. Republicans are hoping to do a quicker and less expensive search than what is available to the general public.

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Democrats say Republicans are using the lawsuit as a "broad fishing expedition ... to prop up their otherwise unsupported allegations."

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In papers filed Wednesday, Democratic attorneys said if the court sides with Republicans, it should at least delay discovery until some legal questions are answered.

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There now are so many attorneys representing what by one count is more than 90 parties in the suit that court officials will hold hearings in the Chelan County Auditorium, across the street from the courthouse.

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Sorry I chopped the article up so much; I tried to find 4 of the better paragraphs. I really recommend reading the whole thing. It is a fascinatingly look at a lawsuit filed by republicans who claim the Washington State governor's election was not fair. Interesting that they seem to have a different criteria of what passes for election integrity than when their own candidate 'wins'.

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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:34 AM
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1. The link doesn't work
It seems that they are trying every possibility in the book to get it their way :( I wish they would GET OVER IT!
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claudiajean Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:37 AM
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2. Seattle Times doesn't allow links to the print pages-Here's the right link
The correct link is as follows:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002150778_recount14m.html

The Seattle Times doesn't like people linking to avoid story click-throughs by posting links to print pages, and punishes you with dead links for trying...
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:10 PM
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10. I don't
I hope they push and push and push, because it is exactly the kind of thing that will set a precident for *us* to push and push and push for presidential election fraud (or at least the fraud that will occur in 2006).
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:49 AM
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3. Damn, get over it!
There is going to be a "re-vote" in November 2008. It'll probably take that long to comb through the records anyway.
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chicagojoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:55 AM
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4. By then, the Repubs will have fallen out of favor
with many of their voters due to the exposure of them that will occur
over the next couple of years. STAY TUNED!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 09:06 AM
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5. So typical. They once spent 70 million dollars of the public's money
to buy themselves a perjury trap.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 10:01 AM
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6. The new Governor has been sworn in,
but that seems to make no difference to a repuke. Look what happened to Gray Davis in California. If there's a way to get Gregoire out, they'll find it.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 02:59 PM
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7. Gregoire is one tough bitch -- she took on the tobacco companies
I'm taking back the word "bitch" --

I'd bet she knows what the GOPigs are up to and is several steps ahead of them.

She knows she won -- and she is probably aware of all the the Rossi dirty tricks. The Rossi team will continue to play the press -- and Gregoire will concentrate on her job as Washington State Governor.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:03 PM
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8. My dream is...
...that this will come back to bite them in the butt, not only in Washington but on a national level. Ohio, anyone?
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Lisabtrucking Donating Member (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:09 PM
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9. electronic copy of database. Did we do this in Ohio, and if not why not
Party asked the State Patrol for an electronic copy of that database, the Washington State Identification System. The list contains more than 1.2 million records.
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findTruth Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-14-05 03:21 PM
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11. Request electronic copy of database in NM, Florida and Ohio
I agree! We should do the same thing as soon as possible!
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:07 AM
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12. Send this report to them. Indicates machine fraud favoring repubs.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:26 AM
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13. Wouldn't it be nice if we would shadow their every move, in Ohio
What the Repubs do in Washington, we should do in Ohio, step by step. What's good for the stampeding elephant (they do love to stampede, don't they) is good for the kicking donkey.

I agree with above poster: let them set a precedent. Of course, they do tend to make the rules, then break the rules when it's conveeeenyent for 'em.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 01:47 AM
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14. i hope they get Moyered
i mean stonewalled
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LeeB Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-16-05 11:33 PM
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15. Thanks for the reminder, Diane R . . .
. . . I had intended to do a bit of snooping into registration standards. So I did. Washington State does restore voting rights to those persons who have been convicted of felonies when their civil rights have been restored by the court. This is from the Secretary of State's webpage at http://www.secstate.wa.gov/elections/voterguide/faq.aspx:

When are felons eligible to vote again?

All persons convicted of a felony who have met the conditions of their sentences may have their voting rights restored a number of ways.

  • Upon completion of their sentences, the Department of Corrections may restore the persons’ rights through the court of their original convictions.

  • These persons may return to the court of conviction and petition the judge to restore their rights via court order.

  • They may receive a pardon from the Governor.

  • If their crime was committed before July 1, 1984 they may contact the Indeterminate Sentence Review Board and ask for restoration of their rights. (The ISRB may be contacted at http://www.wa.gov/isrb/ , PO Box 40907, Olympia, WA 98504-0907 or (360) 493-9266)


What I'm curious about now is if Vancy-Pants, et al, are allowed to acquire these records from the state, will those records also reveal who has had their civil rights restored? I certainly hope the judge doesn't leave this state open to the same kind of inappropriate "purging" that happened in Florida.

Dammit.
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