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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:45 PM
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NPR's Open Source Conyers, Mark Crispin Miller, Steal This Election
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 05:47 PM by cal04
This was last night but the link works.

I will be on NPR Radio's Program Open Source at 7pm EST tonight to talk about the Ohio elections. Mark Crispin Miller will be joining me along with a couple other guests. Here is the link describing the show
http://www.radioopensource.org/steal-this-election
Rep. John Conyers

Dan Tokaji
Assistant Professor of Law, Ohio State University
Associate Director, Election Law at Moritz
Blogger, Equal Vote Blog

Mark Crispin Miller
Professor of culture and communications, New York University.
Author, Fooled Again: How the Right Stole the 2004 Election & Why They’ll Steal the Next One Too (Unless We Stop Them)

Bill Todd
Attorney at Squire, Sanders, & Dempsy in Columbus, Ohio
Council to the Ohio Republican Party and the Bush-Cheney Campaign during the ‘04 elections

http://www.radioopensource.org/steal-this-election
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:48 PM
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1. Dan Tokaji
calling it voter suppression,Incompetence, and not theft,
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:51 PM
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4. It was theft, and it doesn't matter as much as fixing the system
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 05:52 PM by IndyOp
and stiffening our spines to FIGHT BACK the next time it happens.

We DO NOT accept the results of elections fraught with incompetence and/or fraud.

:grr:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:49 PM
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2. I am listening now and taking notes!
I've never heard of Opensource before -- it is an online NPR/PRI show that is taped in Massachusetts -- or so I gather.

:bounce:
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:50 PM
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3. thanks IndyOP. Listening too
Conyers :deliberate attempt to suppress the vote
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 05:53 PM
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5. downloading mp3 now - I love shows that provide mp3s! K & R nt
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 06:01 PM
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6. We can't turn to the Congress, that's for sure
Conyers comment

Mark Crispin Miller
Solution is not such a simple thing. Much deeper than wrong machinery
Wing of the repub party that hijacked the party and doesn't share the framers view
Real conservatives can not possibly approve

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 06:12 PM
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7. Conyers: Pattern of errors, misrepresentation from SOS,
inaccurate statements from SOS, misleading information - much of it governmentally inspired, all calculated to refute the exit polling that goes on in elections -- in which all experts say can't turn out the way it did and have the result you had (* won).

Total a possible of 357,000 votes or more: registration barriers, voters misdirected or not allowed to vote, provisional ballots not honored, caging & voter intimidation, spoiled ballots, faulty machines.

100,000 -- Ohio Republican Governor Taft estimated that over 100,000 voters were possibly affected by Secretary of State Blackwell's directive that registrations must be submitted on paper of a very specific weight. (It was, of course, overturned, but not for several weeks).

Over 35,000 voters "caged": Targeting an area, usually of minorities, in which they are sent some challenge of their right to vote. Ohio Republican Party sent registered letters and challenged over 35,000 voters -- some servicemen serving abroad, some homeless, some didn't want to sign mail from the Republican Party

93,000 Spoiled Ballots: Approximately ballots on which there was either no Presidential vote recorded or multiple votes recorded.

10,000 Voters Disenfranchised in Cuya- Estimate of NAACP regarding registration barriers.

174,000 people unable to vote because of the long lines in minority/urban areas!! :grr:

102,000 voters disenfranchised due to avoidable registration errors.

66,000 had ballots invalidated by faulty machines.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:04 PM
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8. This online interview is *really* interesting because
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 08:06 PM by IndyOp
it includes such disparate voices --

Congressman John Conyers and to his radical left - Mark Crispin Miller

While Tokaji refuses to use the word 'stolen' he reams Hyde's proposed law for national voter ID and responded vigorously to the Republican hack (Todd) who argues that the only problem with elections is THOSE ORGANIZATIONS that are registering dead people -- not the Democratic Party so much, he says, but THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

He doesn't list the organizations he is accusing, but I will: NAACP, Project Vote, Rock the Vote, League of Pissed Off Voters, Unions, People for the American Way...

Guess what? THOSE ORGANIZATIONS are by, for, and of THE PEOPLE. They are us. Not some kind of 'disembodied' them.

Aren't the Rethugs just great and separating "organization" from the people who make up the organization? The GOVERNMENT is 'it' or 'that' - not us to the Rethugs. All along I had thought government was of the people, by the people, for the people. US.

Really interesting hearing all of the voices in the debate "in the same room" -- this is exactly what I hoped would happen as a result of the Kennedy Rolling Stone article.

Give it a listen ER friends!

:bounce:
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AtLiberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:46 PM
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9. ?
Will the show be archived?

If so, do you know the link?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:01 PM
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10.  AtLiberty did you try this link? It worked this afternoon.
Click to Listen to the Show (24 MB MP3)
http://www.radioopensource.org/steal-this-election

:hi:
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